The Usenet Wit, Wisdom and Psychopathic Outbursts of Keltic Phr0st

In article <[email protected]>,
  Cold Fire <[email protected]> wrote:
> Alex DeLarge <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Isn't pacnet/paknet/packnet the intelligence mobile network run by vodafone?
>
> Its the x25 packet network run by vodafone
> CF
>

Amen, much explored, grossly insecured, and
responsible for much of the EFT that occurs  in
the UK (as a transport). AFAIR it was PSE 635
(Well, mostly, that's where VF were based) within
DNIC 2343 (D-Plus).


Brush up on :

- VME
- MVS
- PiCK

And fun can be had. Nice drop / echo gens and
test facilities too :-)

KP

In article <Ia865.4294$L5.44124@stones>,
  "monkey puncher" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> are leased line 'modems' just retro doorstops?
> i have about eight,can anything interesting be done with them?
>
>

Basically just line drivers requiring an X.21 interface if they
conform to Kilostream conditioning (Likely), you could set yourself
up a two way leased line circa 6km long with the right cable. X.21
framing is pretty simplistic, as are the cables. DTE/DCE Transmit &
Receive, Timing and Control and that's your whack.

To do crossover or switching between more than 2  units requires a MUX
and a distro frame (Hardware or software). LAPB-tastic.

KP

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In article <[email protected]>,
  Cold Fire <[email protected]> wrote:
> KP <[email protected]> wrote:
> > In article <[email protected]>,
> >   "zme" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> First off, there are no Welsh hackers. This is a fact which has proved 
> > There are no Scottish Hackers either. 
> > Fact.
> > Proven.
> > True.
>
> Very true, I was there earlier this year and didn't see a single one
>
> CF
>

Yes. That's right. Anyone who says otherwise is a liar and a communist.

KP

In article <[email protected]>,
  (_@_) wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Jul 2000 21:16:42 +0100, someone claiming to be "monkey
> puncher" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> -snip everything-
> (Basically i have a hp 715/100 running hp unix, how do i get root?)
>
> you say the macine has a NIC and you have spare boxes? why not network
> them and transfer the files by ftp? you say you have user accounts
> already, so it should be no problem, although it may mean configuring
> the rest of the LAN to suit the IP of the hp unix box if you do not
> have the means to set the IP.
>
> I have no specific knowledge of hp unix, but does single user mode not

Let the machine boot as normal, booting from the specified root device
(usually boot p0), let it get past mounting /usr and then hit the
power switch [_not_ TOC].

When the machine restarts, it goes into a blind panic and drops you into
a single user rootshell to perform filesystem checks. Null out root's
password and bingo.

This works for HP-UX v8.05, 9, 10.20 AFAIK. Haven't tried it on a
machine with tcb installed though.

If it complains and doesn't drop into sys maintennance, power cycle
the fucker until it does. Worked for me.

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In article <yV1b5.3080$I5.204756@stones>,
  "monkey puncher" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> KP <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > WMS is accessible via the DDSN, but requires OUC and Passwords;
> > Incidentally, DMBBS went down years ago. Where did you get the
> > file again?
>
> yes, i'm old.
> somebody sent it me.
> i asked on unauthorised access, (or maybe 1066 or perhaps p0m90's inside
> info, cant remeber.)
> the file had the dockmaster ascii tag and phone number.
> (your bbs!!)
>
>

Heh, that takes me back a couple of years.

I never ran DockMaster, I was an incredibly regular caller though;
AFAIK Eck (Sysop) disappeared under very mysterious (to those not
knowing him personally I suppose) circumstances after having paranoid
fits about laptop wielding SO15/6 agents outside his front door.
A shame really, DMBBS was the last big HPA bbs worth it's salt
in my opinion.

I did however run PVBBS which was a spectacular disaster due to a
complete and utter lack of interest / motivation and co-sysed on
1066 (which was fun).

Incidentally, Coldfire wrote an incredibly very guide to
CIPHER sometime ago, maybe this is the file you have. Further info
can be found in the public domain about CIPHER, if it's any use to
you.


KP


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In article <[email protected]>,
  "John Sinclair Morgan" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Are there any meetings in Edinburgh??
> I'd like to come along
>
>

Location escapes me, as does the homesite, but ask around in #phsc
and I'm sure someone more knowledgeable will enlighten you. :-)


KP

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In article <[email protected]>,
  "-=809=-" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Mohammed Kabir wrote in message <[email protected]>...
> >I have recently started Blue Boxing in the U.K., however, an insider from BT
> >has warned me that although I'm siezing International Trunk Lines, it still
> >gets filtered through the BT Exchange which is supposedly meant to have a
> >2600Hz (Blue Box) Detector. Is this True? and if not, then how do BT
> >actually catch Blue Boxer's?
> >
> >I would appreciate any advice \ suggestion's given- NOT FUCKING SMART ARSE
> >COMMENT'S WHICH "MISCHIEF" - THAT FUCKING WANKER DECIDED TO POST UP IN
> >RESPONSE TO THE "ANTI-RIP BILL DEMO"
> >
> >Anyway lads....hopefully there will be someone that is'nt a fucked up piece
> >of shit that may be able to help me.....I guess i'll have to wait and see
> >
> >yours,
> >....Kabir, (a UK Phreaker)
>
> BT can detect blueboxing, although not too easily from what I've been
> told...
> As for detectors, it is true that DMS switches have "bluebox- protection"
> software, although I think this software is largely based around US
> blueboxing
> of their NATIONAL network in the very few areas that are still using
R1.

From memory, the DMS command isn't anything to do with C5 trunk seizure
tones, IIRC it serves as an overlay loader for additional modules of
some description.


>
> It's possible that they have 2600 detectors, but 2600hz is rarely sent on
> its
> own when boxing CCITT5 (the internationally boxed system). It's possible
> they
> have "pleep detectors" that can detect the 2600 or 2400hz "beeps" that come
> from the end switch and have some sort of detector of that kind to see if
> it's
> being boxed.
>

I'd imagine that the only step in the transit network that holds
C5 auditing would be the switch handling the C5 linkage and any steps
thereafter; god only knows why a switch offering a transit into an
alternative type of signalling architecture would listen to
customer signalling, but then I'm not an engineer, am I.

> Blueboxing really isn't the problem for telcos that it used to be, so
> perhaps they
> wouldn't go to the trouble. I think the main method most people are caught
> is down to foreign telcos recieving their 0800 bills and seeing a large
> number of
> calls billed to them (someone is caning!) or perhaps a switchman at BT
> noticing
> a large number of 0800 calls. On noticing this, a monolog will be

Not _strictly_ true- doesn't require anyone sticking their nose into
caller records, as AMA tapes are presented at each switching point into
the inland DDSN /
Linkline network. Bulk billing records are held for 90 days, and not
withstanding unusual activity, are binned / wiped / reused.

Pretty extensive software has been around for years of analysis of
AMA and bulk billing records; You are right in saying that nmost cases
are brought to attention by the unwitting 0800 client bearing the brunt
of multiple 6-14 hour calls (naming no names, heh).

placed on
> your line. An ordinary monolog is a shitty piece of equipment, it can
> probably
> proove PBX outdialling but not blueboxing. It'll just help BT with prooving
> their
> call logs when it comes to court.
>
> Now, if BT Security are informed, they may decide you're blueboxing and then
> place a C5 Monolog on your line.....
>
> It's then time to fear. This device will note down all 0800s you
call, and

All 0800 dial-routes are audited back to the presenting switch anyway,
so the use of such a device at that stage is really irrelevant.

> present
> the full call sequence, including your bluebox signalling and the reply
> pleeps
> for instance:
>
> 0800 890 505 (LOL)
> <ANSWER
> CLR FRW>
> <REL GUARD
> SEIZE>
> <PROC TO SEND
> Kp2-44-0-800-321999-ST
> <ANSWER
>
> Etc :)
>
> It's still flawed in the sense that it could all be made-up by BT.

Clearly. Don't believe the hype. And it is pretty piss to erase
audit tapes.

There's
> no real
> way of prooving that the evidence from it is legitimate.
>
> Just remember, scanning, lots of 0800 calls and other things will cause them
> to be suspicious (because you could be doing something wrong).

If you've ever used Sniffer Pro, check the matrix traffic analyser;
This will give you some indication of the picture presented to a human
operator of your calling pattern within your director prefix.
In days of y0re, EMPIRE used to provide this facility in a neat
spreadsheet-esque form.

Try scanning your subnet while sniffer is running, and you get a
good indication of the sort of picture your'e presenting to
the analysis software. Randomisation BTW is pretty useless without
inter-dial delays.

>
> They might be reducing the monitoring on 0800 calls as people are
> increasingly
> using 0800 ISPs. It was (probably still is the case) that ALL 0800 calls
> lasting
> over 8hrs are logged.

Fact - all 0800 calls are logged, period. For how long, is anyones
guess.

What does all this mean?

In summary:

 - You can't make an omlette without breaking eggs;
 - Have fun, but know the risks.
 - Hanging on a C5 line via 0800 for hours on stretch is asking
   for trouble.

and all sorts of other "if you can't swim don't buy a surfboard"
miscellany. Sorry to be bleak guys, but that's the way it is.

Be smart.

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In article <[email protected]>,
  "Dave Wilson" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Okay, before I go dredging the CAPI docs, does anyone know of a decent
> ISDN-centric war-dialler for Linux or Windows 2K?
>
> actually it doesn't need to be isdn-centric under linux, re-phrase question:
> Does anyone know of a decent war-dialler for linux full stop? heh.
>
> I tried running thc-scan under dosemu but it insists on talking directly to
> the hardware, a) is there any way to get dosemu to redirect the hardware
> port/irq combo to /dev/ttyI* or b) a way to get tc-scan to open COM2: like
> your average joe dialler or what?
>
> ttyI* = the isdn channels under the modem emulator
>
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>
> Even better has anyone any capi programming experience? I've skimmed the
> docs a bit but taken nothing in... maybe this could be a decent project.
>
> ,dw
>

You never specified whether or not your'e using a BRI or PRI;
If your using bog-standard ISDN-2, why just sit a couple of copies
of Toneloc rolling on each port? It's pretty easy going about line
control and environment, and it ain't no thing to write port
drivers these days.

If you've gone to the expense (hideous) of installing a PRI,
Look for mass scanning tools ala Phonesweep. Although this does
of course require lots of ports and a dedicated card, you could
generate a good few erlangs worth of traffic per hour.

Then again, you could just reprogram a modem rack to do it all
for you.


KP

>

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In article <[email protected]>,
  "Richard Killip" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi
>
> On B.T. Lines there is this 0800 no. u can ring and it starts off by saying
> stuff like the number you are calling from is 01xxx xxxxxx. To test
> ring-back press one etc etc etc. I have forgotten the number, can anyone
> remind me what it is please? I know it is 0800. Replies to
> [email protected] or to the group (preferabley by e-mail). If you
> prefer, send your answers to ICQ 51090057. Cheers.
>

#1. Don't post that number.
#2. The system is a derivative or ancestor of the 4TEL ALIT
    (Automated LIne Test unit). It's job is to cycle through
    banks of subscribers lines, checking the integrity of each
    one and recording it in a database for fault finding and
    preventive maintenance.

    The engineer dial-in you are presented with is the front
    end for humans to allow simple line tests and SPRET auditing /
    entry from post, crossing points and DPs, hence the requirement
    for ENs or DNs. (Equipment Number / Directory Number).

    On specific exchanges with the facility (I'm not about to get into
    a "No, my exchange is definitely AXE10 blah blah blah blah" pissing
    contest, so fuck off pedants) the default route or DN for this
    facility is 17070.

    Previously, some measure of these tests were facilitated by
    test systems known as SALT, CLI and FRB. Check an acronym list
    and learn something at the same time.

    The reason you *shouldn't* post that number is because without
    failure, it will probably be disconnected. And then you'll be fucked
    because the facility is pretty handy to have in a none 17070
    exchange.


#3. Dialling lots of 0800 numbers is probably illegal and probably
    even morally wrong. Hahahahahaha.


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Of course, someone did post that number, and it did go down in mid-2003.

In article <[email protected]>,
  "mark" <[email protected]> wrote:
> BEWARE
>
> A guy Called J R Pitty that works fro TELECOM SECURICOR CELLULAR RADIO LTD
> (Trading as Bt Cellnet)
>
> Works As FRAUD INVESTIGATION MANAGER that's responsible or Investigating
> Fraudulent Activity against BT CELLNET.
>
> This guy monitors this Newsgroup Regular
> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>


Tell him I said hello.

Hahaha.

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Some wisdom

In article <[email protected]>,
  "news.ntlworld.com" <[email protected]> wrote:
> I'vejust recently returned from spending 3 years in America, and

<Snip>

> I'm glad I got all that off my chest, sorry if my little rant and rave was
> too long for some of you but I feel this is important.
>
> Colonel Grib
>
>

Actually, the people who were doing interesting stuff many years
ago are still doing even more interesting stuff these days, but choose
not to share it with the general morass of idiocy pervading
newsgroups and channels anymore.

If you'd like to try and "kickstart" the UK phreaking scene, try
going outside in a stiff breeze and urinating into it, as it will
achieve far more than trying to educate every wannabe out there.

Why bother helping people who are too stupid to find readily
available information and technical data themselves? Fuck em.
I say let Darwin's theory take hold, save yourself, and let the
rest piss around with redbox recordings and textfiles they'll
never actually get round to using the contents of.

Who cares if It sounds elitist, one look at the plebs milling
around at DNSCON (Oh, and Speccy john *is* a wanker, *fact*) just
confirms what I already suspected to be true.

Your heart's in the right place mate, just a couple of years out
of line. No offense.

Just my tuppence worth.

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The Venom Starts!

In article <6iLq5.25710$Sc.713526@stones>,
  "JamJar" <[email protected]> wrote:
> I think you're a little lost on this concept aren't you. Let me make sure I
> have this right - you want a program that will take any computer on the
> internet, on any OS and architecture to just go to a website on command?
> Hmm... and how would that be done then? Some magical feature every
> programmer for every OS or web browser decided to add into thier software so
> random people can send you to any website they choose?
>
> No - that's really fucking stupid isn't it - and it's not going to happen.
>

Not as stupid as your afro.
Next time we meet you we'll shave your head, ankle biter.

1. Drink until beligerent. Very easy.
 2. Chant the subject line at some over-rated speccy toss.
 3. Breath a sigh of relief as you realise you are not him.
 4. Repeat steps 1-3 as required.

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Before you buy.

KP <[email protected]> wrote:
>  1. Drink until beligerent. Very easy.
>  2. Chant the subject line at some over-rated speccy toss.
>  3. Breath a sigh of relief as you realise you are not him.
>  4. Repeat steps 1-3 as required.

FECK YOU, AND FECK YOU, AND FECK YOU, AND FECK YOU!
SPECKY JOHN DOES A LOT OF GOOD WORK AND YOU LOT JUST TAKE THE PISS!

(injoke, don't expect to get it unless you were in the elite (quite
literly) room at the Hilton)

I'd just like to say a big thanks to KP, for needing a ambulance
for his severe alergic reaction to alcholl in Manchester on Friday
night before we even got to Blackpool, thus giving us someone apart
from the kiddies to take the piss out of (after all, kicking ankle
biters is a bit like kicking lame puppies).

CF

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'Cold Fire, Britains most notorious hacker' Observer, July 1997
'The most recent conviction was that of [Cold Fire] whose On-line
escapades spanned from hacking into educational sites to more
sinister activities such as tapping into industrial and United
States military sites.' DC Paul Cox, SO6 Scotland Yard CCU

In article <[email protected]>,
  Cold Fire <[email protected]> wrote:
> KP <[email protected]> wrote:
> >  1. Drink until beligerent. Very easy.
> >  2. Chant the subject line at some over-rated speccy toss.
> >  3. Breath a sigh of relief as you realise you are not him.
> >  4. Repeat steps 1-3 as required.
>
> FECK YOU, AND FECK YOU, AND FECK YOU, AND FECK YOU!
> SPECKY JOHN DOES A LOT OF GOOD WORK AND YOU LOT JUST TAKE THE PISS!
>
> (injoke, don't expect to get it unless you were in the elite (quite
> literly) room at the Hilton)
>

Hell yeah. Drink with the elite and risk bodily harm from deranged
security professionals when you take the piss out of 'em :-)

> I'd just like to say a big thanks to KP, for needing a ambulance
> for his severe alergic reaction to alcholl in Manchester on Friday
> night before we even got to Blackpool, thus giving us someone apart
> from the kiddies to take the piss out of (after all, kicking ankle
> biters is a bit like kicking lame puppies).
>

Thank you, thank you, thank you. Hey, comatose though I was, I still
managed to nick the internal dialling directory. Fucking hell, almost
unconscious and I still make you all look like amateurs, I dunno.

> CF
>
> --
> 'Cold Fire, Britains most notorious hacker' Observer, July 1997
> 'The most recent conviction was that of [Cold Fire] whose On-line
> escapades spanned from hacking into educational sites to more
> sinister activities such as tapping into industrial and United
> States military sites.' DC Paul Cox, SO6 Scotland Yard CCU
>

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lofi_e <[email protected]> wrote:

> can anybody say narcissus?

Can you anybody say 'fuck off luser', I know i can.

> and if its a private joke why post it to usenet?

Because enough people on here would get it.

CF

-- 
'Cold Fire, Britains most notorious hacker' Observer, July 1997
'The most recent conviction was that of [Cold Fire] whose On-line
escapades spanned from hacking into educational sites to more
sinister activities such as tapping into industrial and United
States military sites.' DC Paul Cox, SO6 Scotland Yard CCU

In article <[email protected]>,
  "lofi_e" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > 'Cold Fire, Britains most notorious hacker' Observer, July 1997
> > 'The most recent conviction was that of [Cold Fire] whose On-line
> > escapades spanned from hacking into educational sites to more
> > sinister activities such as tapping into industrial and United
> > States military sites.' DC Paul Cox, SO6 Scotland Yard CCU
>
> can anybody say narcissus?

I dunno. You get elite, you get famous, you do things and
own places that would turn lesser peoples hair white, while
pushing the envelope of system penetration, and what do you get?
Ankle biters. <Tcoh>

>
> and if its a private joke why post it to usenet?
>

Because

 A) It makes the people that were there *laugh*
 B) It's better than posting your ugly fizzer on the group.
    But hey, at least So15 know who to punch in the face first
    when they raid the accomodation.
 C) We don't give a shit about anything except ourselves.
    This may sometimes come across as arrogance. Good.


>

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In article <[email protected]>,
  "Jonathan E." <[email protected]> wrote:
> If anybody can let me have a copy of (or a link to) a manual for a BT
> revelation I'd be very grateful. I've just inherited said beast (2+6 I
> think) to install in the offices of my local church but I haven't got the
> first idea how to programme it for ring groups, night service etc. etc.
>
> Many thanks for any help

Well, your'e bang out of luck  because I threw a revelation and
manual out some time ago due to lack of space :-(

However, BT were *remarkably* helpful when I called and ask for
a reprogramming manual and specifications, supplying the full
installation and programming documentation.

The number escapes me, but remain persistent (and insistent)
and ye shall prosper so to speak.

From memory, the only programming device required was a suitably
equipped console phone, Revelation 1000 or summat.

Hope this is of some help.




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In article <B5D04342.1497%[email protected]>,
  lix <[email protected]> wrote:
> Oh well, they'll just have to use the phone box!  Would have been neat
> though
>
> Cheers
>
> > From: Peter Morgan <[email protected]>
> > Organization: random
> > Reply-To: Peter <[email protected]>
> > Newsgroups: uk.telecom
> > Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 16:22:25 +0100
> > Subject: Re: BT "In-Contact" line
> >
> > In uk.telecom I saw that on Mon, 28 Aug 2000 16:13:47 +0100
> > lix <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> "In-Contact" allow outgoing 0800 calls so that we could
> >> buy pre-paid phone cards to create a sort of pay as you go home phone?
> >
> > No.  See the notes on
> >
http://www.serviceview.bt.com/list/current/docs/Exchange_Lines/0002N.htm

Peculiar. I don't dispute your claim, however; I have had a line
for incoming calls only previously, with no restriction whatsoever
on outgoing 0800 calls, pas the 1997 date quoted in the previous
post.

Further, I recently ordered and had a line installed listed as
"In-Contact" and quite clearly heard the sales rep. say there
was no restriction on outgoing 0800s when I voiced concern about
being able to access my voicemail.

>
>

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In article <[email protected]>,
  Mark Evans <[email protected]> wrote:
> Matt P <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Would it be alright to share a single Cat 5 as extension cable for two
> > separate phone lines? I need to install two extension sockets in a room 15
> > meters away from the master sockets and would rather use an existing Cat 5
> > than having to run two new 4-core phone cables. Any suggestions?
>
> use the blue and the brown pairs for the phone lines.
>

Strictly speaking, it doesn't matter what colour scheme you use in
an "installation" that size, so long as a) your'e consistent b) you
remember what pair goes to what colour, eg:


   A+B(1)    Blue/White Blue
   A+B(2)    Orange/White Orange

etc...

AFAIR, you should only require A+B (2+5) from the standard POTS line
on extensions past the master socket; I'd prefer to also use the
slave lineboxes with fitted capacitors.


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In article <[email protected]>,
  "Rufus T. Firefly" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "DiGiTaL BuLLeT" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Anyone know where I can get hold of a (preferably online) BT engineers
> > manual?
> >
> > Printed would be OK, but free usually means online...
>
> Free doesn't mean online if you can get in and out of the British Telecom
> vehicle quickly, before the engineer gets back.
>
> Or, find a nearby BT facility and check the skip (dumpster.)
>

Or you could just visit a library and learn *vast* amounts more
than yer normal run of the mill linesman Instead of getting
nicked for trying to pilfer a couple of runs of dropwire,
a test set and some workorder notes.

I think you'll find that the more upmarket equipment tends to be
more heavily guarded while un-attended these days.

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In article <[email protected]>,
  [email protected] wrote:
> On Wed, 6 Sep 2000 19:03:26 +0100, "K1ng" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> <snip>
> >Can anyone help in the slightest.
> http://www.dtmf.org/hybrid/
>
> Big file archive on his page... or at least, there used to be...

For "Big file archive" read "Huge swathes of text typed up out of
publically available documentation that has been around for years
that no-one could be arsed looking for that first made it's appearance
in early 1994 and now passes as kudos for those to lame to actually
hack the switches in question".

For the record, file distribution sucked ass big time.

Save yourself the hassle, get to a decent library; You'll learn more
and you won't have to deal with pubescent angst ridden ankle biters.

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In article <[email protected]>,
  "Revd. Kermit" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > that no-one could be arsed looking for that first made it's appearance
> > in early 1994 and now passes as kudos for those to lame to actually
> > hack the switches in question".
>
> Right, and you're of the opinion that there aren't people out there that
> *like* reading through useless looking technical documentation, on a hacker
> NG? It may be publicly available, but it's still all in one place on a
> website, which is a popular medium. I've heard.
>

The point (which you have so eloquently missed it's *staggering*) I
was trying to make is that to the vast majority of people (Including in
many cases, the authors) this information _is_ *useless*. It's worth
nothing unless it's applied in practise; If you just want to fill your
head with tech data about the PSTN, read a book, you'll learn a hell
of a lot more than you would second hand information.

This is a hacker NG? Funny, I thought I was in alt.retarded. Shucks.


> The fact that the information's there suggests that someone has at some
> point been "arsed" to look at it, and that means that there is a good chance
> someone looked at it the first time, but obviously it wasn't and hence by
> your way of thinking wasn't anybody. Nice line in solopsism you've got going
> on there.

English, obviously *not* being your first language, seems to present
a significant learning curve for you; Let me spell it our for you.

O L D  H A T.

There. If you seriously think that by reading this files you'll turn
into some sort of super-phreak, your'e sorely mistaken. 90% of these
files are so out of date or present no significant technical revelations
to someone intent on doing the damage.

>
> > For the record, file distribution sucked ass big time.
>
> cl00 distributuion is obviously frowned on in your bit of the universe as
> well.

I'd give you one but that'd be like pissing into the wind.

You might save yourself a kicking should we ever meet in person, and
retract the above remark. Frankly, I don't know why I'm fucking
bothering conversing with half the people in here; My associates and I
superced your dumb, f41th reading ass many years ago, and now enjoy the
fruits of our arrogance and information hording on a daily basis.

Sheeit, did that sound elitist? Ha ha! I don't really fucking care
anymore!

Ask around (to someone outwith your hard-of-thinking peer-group) and you
might find that I do actually have a clue.
>
> > Save yourself the hassle, get to a decent library; You'll learn more
> > and you won't have to deal with pubescent angst ridden ankle biters.
>
> Now why not just say that bit?
>

Because then I wouldn't get to harass dumbshits like you. I mean
*really*. Let me take this opportunity to invite you to piss freely
up a greased pole.

Yours Sincerely,

 KP

> Kermit23
>
>

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In article <[email protected]>,
  "Revd. Kermit" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >*useless*. It's worth
> > nothing unless it's applied in practise;
>
> That, of course, is your opinion, and it may well be right, but I suspect
> that amongst the many files on hybrids site there is probably something
> useful, or something that could easily be "put into practice". In fact I'm
> pretty sure there is.
>
> > If you just want to fill your
> > head with tech data about the PSTN, read a book, you'll learn a hell
> > of a lot more than you would second hand information.
>
> Fair point.
>
> > This is a hacker NG? Funny, I thought I was in alt.retarded. Shucks.
>
> It's as much a hacker NG as any other. Not that that's saying much. Anyway,
> I think alt.retarded has been commandeered by the alt.hack people.
>
> > English, obviously *not* being your first language, seems to present
> > a significant learning curve for you; Let me spell it our for you.
>
> Damn, you have discovered my foreign roots, now I shall have to hide in
> shame from your violent, yet strangely well spoken gang of grammar based
> thugs.
>
> > There. If you seriously think that by reading this files you'll turn
> > into some sort of super-phreak,
>
> Ok, was the question "how do I turn into some sort of super-phreak"? No. You
> qyuestion my grasp of the language. It's information, not a quick fix
> solution, but by the way in which the original post was written I get the
> feeling that information is exactly what they are looking for.
> Whether it is completely useful or not is up to the reader to judge, one of
> the most famous phreak files was the e911 doc that phrack published, not
> essentially that useful, and publicly available, but still was of interest
> to a lot of people, and caused a very big stir.
>
> > files are so out of date or present no significant technical revelations
> > to someone intent on doing the damage.
>
> Again, don't overlay your desire to mould everyone in your destructive
> image. Where di you get intent on doing damage from? Good argument, if it
> had anything to do with what we are talking about.
>
> > I'd give you one but that'd be like pissing into the wind.
>
> hehe.
>
> > You might save yourself a kicking should we ever meet in person, and
> > retract the above remark.
>
> Oh dear we seem to be back to damage and violence. Calm down, this isn't
> some kind of testosterone fueled sport event, you dont have to come of as a
> big scary gansta, it's not really impressing anybody.
>

I don't set out to impress anybody when I promise physical violence per
se; More a severe administering of the boot to the arse.

> > ankly, I don't know why I'm fucking
> > bothering conversing with half the people in here;
>
> This is a question I am sure many have asked.
>
> > My associates and I
> > superced your dumb, f41th reading ass many years ago, and now enjoy the
> > fruits of our arrogance and information hording on a daily basis.
>
> And my dad can beat your dad up in a fight or some shit. You claim you're
> amazing while 1) Not being very helpful to the guy asking the original
> question 2) Not demonstrating anything that's going to win over the respect
> of anyone really.
>

Well, frankly I amaze even myself sometimes. I'm talking to you am I
not? I think you'll find I was more than helpful in suggesting a trip to
the municipal library, and to be fair, I don't have to prove my skills
to anyone thank you very much.



> > Sheeit, did that sound elitist? Ha ha! I don't really fucking care
> > anymore!
>
> Fuck, most hackers are elitist, it's one of the perks of having a clue.
> However, there is a diference between elitism and actually being one of the
> elite.
>

<Ahem>

Can you say

"Speccy John's a wanker"

Quite simply, turd, WE RULE, and don't let your ass forget that.

> > Ask around (to someone outwith your hard-of-thinking peer-group) and you
> > might find that I do actually have a clue.
>
> Oh I believe you.
>
> > Because then I wouldn't get to harass dumbshits like
> you. I mean
>
> But the joy of mirrors should provide you with all the dumbshits you need.
>

Must be hard looking in your mirror from the carpet hugging confines
of your motorised wheelchair...

The only mirror I looked in recently was the full length number in
your mum's bedroom as I banged her ass; BTW, tell her this won't affect
our relationship *at*all*, and that next time I'll actually untie your
dad to let him join in.

Go suck a dick, newbie; Kill the thread and let me actually do some
work instead of tempting me to mock the afflicted.

KP

PS : Next school night that comes up, Let me know so I can make you
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> I don't set out to impress anybody when I promise physical violence per
> se; More a severe administering of the boot to the arse.

Well at least we cleared that up.

> Well, frankly I amaze even myself sometimes.

Admit it, you amaze yourself all the time. Argh! I'm walking, Argh! I have
eyes. It must be fun being you.

> I'm talking to you am I
> not?

Well spotted.

> I think you'll find I was more than helpful in suggesting a trip to
> the municipal library,

Yes, that useful point was hidden in there, but buried in a lot of diatribe.
In fact several of the point you made have been reasonable, but they are so
entrenched in attitude they don't really make it across.

> and to be fair, I don't have to prove my skills
> to anyone thank you very much.

No one wants a demonstration of yor mitey powrs.

> Quite simply, turd WE RULE,

You rule turds. Sweet.

> Must be hard looking in your mirror from the carpet hugging confines
> of your motorised wheelchair...

That babies h4rdcore, there ain't none of your shit that can smoke my
wh33lch4ir, I lowered the suspension jacked up the back end, 12 inch sub and
the phattest kw soundz you have ever heard, and every week I take it out and
give your shopping trolly a beating.

> The only mirror I looked in recently was the full length number in
> your mum's bedroom as I banged her ass

It's true, my mum does a lot of charity work with the extremely deprived.

> BTW, tell her this won't affect
> our relationship *at*all*,

I don't think she's got over that time she found you trying to lick your own
ass. It's so sad seeing a boy trying to do what his mum normally does for
him.

 > and that next time I'll actually untie your
> dad to let him join in.

Oh that's ok, he says he's fine with you trying to earn your merit badges.

> Go suck a dick, newbie

Look, however much you offer me I am just not going to do it. Sheesh.

> Kill the thread and let me actually do some
> work instead of tempting me to mock the afflicted.

Fair enought, it ends here then :) I can't take your complex web of insults
woven so craftily to bring be to my knees. And no while I am there I will
not just touch it!

> PS : Next school night that comes up

I don't go to school anymore (then again, neither to do, but I finished),
but if you tell me when your holidays are, maybe we can arrange something.

>  Let me know so I can make you
>      watch me tapping your mum too.

I was about to write something witty here, when I noticed your wrote 'I can
*make* you*. Now it is hard to stop laughing.

Kermit23

In article <[email protected]>,

<Sigh>

Anytime, anyplace kid; Name your Con and I'll happily stand on your
head.

/end-of-thread


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In article <[email protected]>,
  crypt <[email protected]> wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
>   KP <[email protected]> wrote:
> > In article <[email protected]>,
> >   [email protected] wrote:
> > > On Wed, 6 Sep 2000 19:03:26 +0100, "K1ng" <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > > <snip>
> > > >Can anyone help in the slightest.
> > > http://www.dtmf.org/hybrid/
> > >
> > > Big file archive on his page... or at least, there used to be...
> >
> > For "Big file archive" read "Huge swathes of text typed up out of
> > publically available documentation that has been around for years
> > that no-one could be arsed looking for that first made it's appearance
> > in early 1994 and now passes as kudos for those to lame to actually
> > hack the switches in question".
> >
> > For the record, file distribution sucked ass big time.
> >
> > Save yourself the hassle, get to a decent library; You'll learn more
> > and you won't have to deal with pubescent angst ridden ankle biters.
> >
> 1994???
> your jumping the gun a bit there.  Hybrid didn't even appear in the
> scene until late 1997/early 1998 and his website wasn't up for at least
> another 6 - 8 months after that.  I've know hybrid for quite a while now
> and I used to do a lot of writing for faith. Most of the files he writes
> for his zine faith are either from BT technical manuals or copied from
> other peoples work.  It doesn't really matter how much you read about
> that, you really do need to put it into practice which i think is what
> this group is really failing to do
>
> ----------
> [email protected]
> www.red-pill.org.uk
> -----
> virus is life
> humans are the mindless hosts
> ----------
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
>

Point of history for those still in their teens:

1) Tech files on Switching and the PSTN were in distribution on UK
   board in early 94/95. Ask anyone old enough to remember;

and, regarding red-pill:

2) Payphones do not have CCTVs focused on them all the time, and
   only a few have mini-cams in them. Steal one, dismantle it and
   see for yourself; All you'll find is a couple of PCBs, a test
   port, an IPOMS modem and a coin chute.

3) Traffic lights do not have modems in them; NADICS /  CITRAC
   contrlled cachement areas do, only to communicate with the
   local management centre;

4) Listening to BT employees is guaranteed to rot your brains.




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In article <[email protected]>,
  GHTROUT <[email protected]> wrote:
> Ralf, why did you take my document, convert it, write *your* URL all
> over it and post it.
>
> I wrote that document before Nortel even thought to make a security
> audit available.  For you to take it and post it on your site with your
> f%&cking URL on it is really low.
>
> As far as I'm concerned, your site is getting nothing but bad reviews
> from me.
>
> Boycott rottmann.net


Hmmm,

 Your security audit and all the files associated with them
appeared sometime ago in an *exceedingly* lame e-zine palmed off as
the author's own work; So it looks like you've got people whipping
your work on both sides of the fence.

Damn good audit though, pretty extensive.

Just my tuppence werth.

In article <[email protected]>,
  [email protected] (t0ssa) wrote:
> Who the f**k does he think he is with this sig ?
>

<Ahem>

Deat t0ssa,

We rule. And you will never know how much we rule.

Doubtless infinitely more than the chimps who think
this group is a good information source (including your
good self no doubt).

Don't forget that and things don't get nasty.


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Hi kids!

 Do you like violence?
 Wanna see me stick 9" nails through your motherfucking eyelids?

 Doesn't d4rkcyde suck - I mean really, lets be honest.
 Hybrid can't even secure his own box at essex.ac.uk, I mean
 <jeez>
 with all that security experiencem you'd think he'd be able
 to plug those holes like a danish dam boy, but, alas, he
 loses out.

 So here he is kids, just so you know who the kid jumping up
 and down and generally being a pain in the ass at the next 2600
 meet is.

 http://www.closed-networks.com/~kp/hybrid/myweb/phil.jpg
 http://www.closed-networks.com/~kp/hybrid/myweb/cv.html

 and if in any doubt, why not browse

 http://www.closed-networks.com/~kp/hybrid

 to see what out favourite script kid has been up to.

 Well gotta go, apparently scotland yard are after my ass
 (along with GCHQ and DERA), but hey; Whats new?

 Hope this pisses you off no end you fucking no-marks.

 Bye bye!

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Bah,

 URLs should read

 http://www.closed-networks.com/~kp/hybrid/myweb/phil1.jpg
 http://www.closed-networks.com/~kp/hybrid/myweb/cv2.html


 An easy oversight, much like not securing your own box.

 Wh0a, was that an insult?

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In article <[email protected]>,
  DannuX <no.fukin.email.heh> wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Dec 2000, SuperJuan wrote:
> >On the simpsons tonight, Homer got an Auto-Dialer to run a telemarketing
> >scam.
> >Basically it is a machine used to dial every number, or range of numbers in
> >your area.
> >
> >When someone answers it plays a message, and hangs up, then rewinds the tape
> >and dials the next number.
> >
> >Anyone have an scematics to make one, or even better would be able to write
> >a program to do it.
> >
> >Any help would be fab thanks.
> >
> >SuperJuan
>
> heh, simpsons - insperation for a nation.
>
> Well, um, im sure u can make something that would do the trick with Macro
> Express (not sure of the address), and some L-Cheapo software - again just a
> idea, but well worth a look into.
>

Maplins probably still sell their autodialler unit, an exorbitant
pricetag included for what is essentially a dialler controlled by a
relay and a PIC. AFAIR, the unit was not BABT approved. Usage of
the hardware unit in some states over the pond is illegal as far as
I am currently aware.

Fuck the hardware, use your brain and some software.

KP


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In article <mP9%[email protected]>,
  "P@BB" <[email protected]> wrote:
> acoustic coupler - i used to know a site that sold em but ive lost it -
> modern ones can get speeds of about 28.8k depending upon setup..
>
> cya
> pabb
>
>

roadwarrior.com do a nice couple of units, but if you're planning on
using GPT payphones as opposed to ones with circular ear and mouth
pieces; a) invest in seperate mic & speakers to swap in for such
a joyous occaison b) Build your own - not *that* hard - essentially
a hybrid circuit with a 600:600 tranny and some other balancing
gubbins.

 Don't fool yourself into thinking that hacking from payphones is
untraceable either - each BT owned (*not* leased) payphone is
monitored frequently by IPOMS, and IPOMS also holds exact geographical
details of each PCO. So there. All things in moderation though, eh.

ie : abuse a single phone often enough, and it's relatively easy to
spot some spotted dick with a lap/palmtop and an A/C typing in a frenzy.

Or you could hack IPOMS. Fancy that. :-)

KP


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In article <[email protected]>,
  crypt <[email protected]> wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
>   "Gossi The Dog" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > In article <[email protected]>, "crypt" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > Correction.  Hybrid is gone, Darkcyde lives on (hopefully)
> >
> > Hybrid's apparent "I am D4rkcyde" routine will probably mean it won't.
> > That and that fact everybody is idlers.
> >
> > --
> > You are wrong.  This one is willing to sacrifice every drop of human
> > happiness and love he has ever known for another.  He is not a lower being.
> >
> > http://www.hobbiton.org/~gossi for status of owned.lab6.com
> >
>
> yeh, well I'll speek to him tommorow and maybe get something sorted
out

Oh, and BTW crypt, call me an idiot again and I'll go get my hatchet.

KP


--
Not giving a fuck what you or anyone else thinks since 1991

URLs should read

http://www.closed-networks.com/~kp/hybrid/myweb/phil1.jpg
http://www.closed-networks.com/~kp/hybrid/myweb/cv2.html


An easy oversight, much like not securing your own box.

Wh0a, was that an insult?

And hey udp, dont forget we're still owning your ass too, no matter
who you're hosted by! BTW, must have been tough taking lessons from
Nomad about BBS ettiquette back in 94; he was kissing our balls
to get VD'ed on UA and DaC!

Wanna meet face to face to argue this shit? Come to the London
2600 motherfuckers, we'll see who's fronting. I aint afraid to
go Agent Steal on *any* dipshit who pisses me off.

Pussies - wannabe hacker nobody motherfuckers; y'all better get prepared
to be knocked the fuck out.

PS : Fuck y'all.

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In article <[email protected]>,
  Cold Fire <[email protected]> wrote:
> Jolt-Freak <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Umm, what are you trying to do? All I can see is you jumping up and
> > down shouting about how lame someone else is and telling everyone to
> > go fuck themselves. How although this may provide some sort of
> > ammusment for you for me at least it's getting dull. If he's so lame
> > why do you have to shout about it? and if you think were all so lame
> > why do you bother to read/post here? Unless you have something
> > interesting to say or can help someone out or even need some help
> > yourself why bother posting? I guess all I'm trying to say is please
> > post something more constructive (ick. people (fools) in power word)
> > or just don't post at all, and btw I'm not restricing your right to
> > freespeach by saying that encase you want to jump on that bandwagon.
>
> Don't be rude to your elders and betters, KP has written more
> constructive files on phreaking than anyone else in the history of
> phreaking in the UK, approx 100 files, so if he wants to post
> unconstructive shit who the fuck are we to argue ?
>
> CF

Don't mention the precious things, CF :-)

Why do we even argue with these fuckers anymore anyway?

>
> --
> 'Cold Fire, Britains most notorious hacker' Observer, July 1997
> 'The most recent conviction was that of [Cold Fire] whose On-line
> escapades spanned from hacking into educational sites to more
> sinister activities such as tapping into industrial and United
> States military sites.' DC Paul Cox, SO6 Scotland Yard CCU
>

--
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In article <[email protected]>,
  crypt <[email protected]> wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
>   KP <[email protected]> wrote:
> > In article <[email protected]>,
> >   crypt <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > In article <[email protected]>,
> > >   "Gossi The Dog" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > In article <[email protected]>, "crypt" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Correction.  Hybrid is gone, Darkcyde lives on (hopefully)
> > > >
> > > > Hybrid's apparent "I am D4rkcyde" routine will probably mean it won't.
> > > > That and that fact everybody is idlers.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > You are wrong.  This one is willing to sacrifice every drop of human
> > > > happiness and love he has ever known for another.  He is not a lower being.
> > > >
> > > > http://www.hobbiton.org/~gossi for status of owned.lab6.com
> > > >
> > >
> > > yeh, well I'll speek to him tommorow and maybe get something sorted
> > out
> >
> > Oh, and BTW crypt, call me an idiot again and I'll go get my hatchet.
> >
> > KP
> >
> > --
> > Not giving a fuck what you or anyone else thinks since 1991
> >
> > Sent via Deja.com
> > http://www.deja.com/
> >
> I think my point is proved.  Go get your hatchet KP, see if I care.  I
> don't really wanna start a war here, but I think that most people on
> this group would agree with me when I say that trying to ruin other
> peoples lives isn't right.
>

I don't know, I think it's pretty amusing.

> As far as I can tell, the full story of this is pretty simple, Hybrid
> and KP had no real argument, it was a simple case of KP just dropping
> his dox for no real reason other than he could.
>

No, I just don't like D4rkcyde or Hybrid.

> I don't think you realise the impact that this could have had on
> Hybrids life, he has already been acused by several law enforcement
> agencies of causeing millions worth of damage to various companies, and
> if they take this information to make an arrest it could leave him
> faceing the rest of his life in jail.  Or maybe you do realise, but
> like you signature says, you don't give a fuck about anyone else except
> for yourself.
>

That's quite funny, considering Hybrid couldn't hack his way out of
a paper bag. Several law enforcement agencies, haha; Kiddy, go
back to being pretend hackers - You've probably never even seen
the inside of a cop-shop, let alone smelt a whiff of a fed.

Furthermore, I hardly think anyone with security as *pish* as
Hybrid would be capable of anything other than compile, aim and scan.

Law enforcement agencies, hahahahahahahahahaha

> So bring your hatchet and whatever else you want and meet me at the
> london 2600 meet, or even at the party on saturday if ya want, I'll be
> waiting

Actually, I'll turn up at the 2600 unarmed and beat your ass barefisted
if you want. Or perhaps you'd like to kiss my ass?


--
Not giving a fuck what you or anyone else thinks since 1991

In article <[email protected]>,
  Cold Fire <[email protected]> wrote:
> Pi <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Cold Fire wrote: 
> >> maybe that why were're about the only elite people posting to
> >> this news group :) 
> > You are the only people i know that i would describe as 'elite', however
> > there are a lot of sound people in here that if they don't die/leave/get
> > busted will be the elite of tomorow. I refer to people such as Gossi,
> > Aldelarge and the Youngstars, Sobek and Obsidian.
>
> I only know Gossi and Aldelarge slightly and don't know the otehrs
> at all, so I'm not really in a position to  comment, there
> of course lots of other talented people in this group apart from
> the 15 year old kidies who've just being bought a PC for christmas.
>

Try -

1) Being evicted twice due to close calls and questioning
2) Actively sought after by Vodafone and BT for 2-3 years
3) Invited to speak to the military (as a guest) or be picked up
4) Mentioned in the InfoSec quarterly as a threat to Scottish
   telecommunications
5) Called as a prosecution witness twice in cases sought by BT
   (declined I might add)
6) Capable of erasing AMA records on three major switch types
7) Wardialling for 7 months *solid* 24/7 and having my own CLLI code
   assigned to the bridge circuit
8) Responsible (allegedly) for service outage for 2 weeks in the
   majority of scotland 8 years ago due to "service over-runs"
9) Capable of listening into phone traffic courtesy of H.M. Customs
   and Excise, The scottish parliament, DERA, The BNFL, the AEC,
   the MOD and Thus
10) Remaining at large for 8-10 years
11) Penetrating every single major commercial telecoms X.25
    management network to date, including some you've never heard of
    (and never will!)
12) Let your imagine run-riot, phreaking wise; Chances are (99%)

                    *I've been there and done it*

<ahem>

Meaningless now I'm retired (unless you can afford me) and old
and grey.

Might I also add, all the above is allegation, should my solicitor
be reading his.

Survival of the fittest IMHO.

I'm sure others will testify to the above.
Who knows, one day Hybrid may thank me for making him more hardcore.


:-P

KP


> CF
> --
> 'Cold Fire, Britains most notorious hacker' Observer, July 1997
> 'The most recent conviction was that of [Cold Fire] whose On-line
> escapades spanned from hacking into educational sites to more
> sinister activities such as tapping into industrial and United
> States military sites.' DC Paul Cox, SO6 Scotland Yard CCU
>

Amen to that, brother.

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Not giving a fuck what you or anyone else thinks since 1991

In article <[email protected]>,
  [email protected] wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
>   KP <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > Au contraire - I have the power, so why not use it? Hacking darwinism
> > is just about the best principle I can think of; If you can't hack it
> > (sic) then find a different walk of life.
> >
>
> Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
>
> Who is going to trust you now ?


No-one; Big fat hairy fucking deal - nothing changed there.

>
> Sent via Deja.com
> http://www.deja.com/
>

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In article <[email protected]>,
  crypt <[email protected]> wrote:
> OK, I can understand what your saying, but no one can ever 'earn the
> right to be an arsehole'.  If someone wants to be an arsehole then it's
> because they're an arsehole, not because they have any divine right to
> be one.  Don't get me wrong, I respect what KP has done, and it's true
> he has been among the best, if not the best in the country in the
past,

<Ahem>

"Been amongst the best"....

Hahahaha, crypt, if you only knew *half* of what went on behind closed
doors. Fact is crypt, I still remain one of the best and will continue
to do so for quite some *considerable* length of time.

Anyway, it's nice to see you finally see sense and apologise before
it turns nasty for you too.

-----------------------------------------------------------
Not giving a fuck what you or anyone else thinks since 1991

In article <[email protected]>,
  Cold Fire <[email protected]> wrote:
> Ryan <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I just seen a nice book called "hacking exposed" (red cover) which looks pretty
> > damn spanky, would be quite nice for new people.
>
> Hack Proofing your Network: Internet Tradecraft, by Ryan Russel /
> Secuityfocus, et al.
>
> One of the best security books I've seen in years
>
> http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/1928994156/r/026-3842890- 7308451
>
> And as a general mauel on how to lead your life as a hacker:
>
> Watchman: The Twisted Life And Crimes Of Serial Hacker Kevin Poulsen
> by Jonathan Littman.
>
> put simply read the book, live the life.

Innit. I particularly liked the sermon shortly before our excursion
last Xmas, heh.

>
> CF
>
> --
> 'Cold Fire, Britains most notorious hacker' Observer, July 1997
> 'The most recent conviction was that of [Cold Fire] whose On-line
> escapades spanned from hacking into educational sites to more
> sinister activities such as tapping into industrial and United
> States military sites.' DC Paul Cox, SO6 Scotland Yard CCU
>

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Fucking hell, here's me thinking I'd lost that elusive capture
 as well. Here's crypt supporting his pal hybrid:

---- 8< ----

#2600-uk> Oh look
#2600-uk> What a co-incidence
#2600-uk> Someone stole hybrid's file on SL-1 Security!
#2600-uk> http://home.wi.rr.com/browser/ght/m1sa.html
#2600-uk>  /dripping_sarcasm -off
<[crypt]:#2600-uk> hehe
*** Signoff: spook_ (laterz)
<[crypt]:#2600-uk> hybrid always rips files
#2600-uk> Hmmm
#2600-uk> He should try maybe actually hacking the systems he rips off
files
+about then
#2600-uk> Ooops
#2600-uk> I forgot
#2600-uk> Darkcyde are the elite phreaks
#2600-uk> I'd better be quiet
<[crypt]:#2600-uk> yeh
<[crypt]:#2600-uk> we'll 0wn your arse :)
<[crypt]:#2600-uk>  /dripping_sarcasm -off
#2600-uk> I might hasten to add that I've probably forgotten more than
the
+group will ever know as a collective, but that would be puissing on
your
+chips, So I won't
<[crypt]:#2600-uk> heh
* lazarus:#2600-uk grins
<[crypt]:#2600-uk> I probably know more about shit than the rest of the
group
+put together
<[crypt]:#2600-uk> hybrid is a lamer who just copies everyone elses
files
<[crypt]:#2600-uk> I wrote a file about lan rover systems once and then
the
+next week i found it in faith under his name
#2600-uk> Ahhhh
#2600-uk> Sooooo
#2600-uk> You'll know the syntax for pulling service using SERVORD
under SoS
+then?
*** Starting logfile irc.log
*** Value of LOG set to ON

---- 8< ----

Real capture, taken from a CD I burnt shortly after the above
conversation. Heh, sometimes I astound even myself, I'm such
a cunt.

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In article <[email protected]>,
  Cold Fire <[email protected]> wrote:
> KP <[email protected]> wrote:
> > #2600-uk> Sooooo
> > #2600-uk> You'll know the syntax for pulling service using SERVORD
> > under SoS
>
> Well, if you just want to suspend service I'd guess it would be:
>
> SERVORD
> SUS $ <DN> <LEN>
> (hit y to confirm)
>
> if you wanted to delete it entirely you'd be wanting to use:
>
> SERVORD
> OUT $ <DN> <LEN> BLDN
> (hit y to confirm)
>
> DN being Directory Number and LEN being Line Equipment Number of
> course.
>
> CF

Hey, how about we show the kids how to do number re-routing under
AXE sometime? ;-)


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KP <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hey, how about we show the kids how to do number re-routing under
> AXE sometime? ;-)

ahh, well, thats much more difficult to demonstrate cause it depends
on the set up of the axe you are using but as a rough example:

ANBSI:B=xxx-5551212,M=11-01712301177,F=xxx

the xxx's will depend on the set up of the switch, but generally 
that will redirect 0800 555 1212 to the CCU office number.

you will of course have to do commands along the lines of:

RUN;
ANBLI;
ANBZI;
(wait 2 minutes)
ANBCI;
(wait 40 seconds)
ANBSI:B=xxx-5551212,M=11-01712301177,F=xxx;
ANBAI;

AXE10's are a cunt though, it's hard to give the right commands
cause it all depends on the switch yer in :)

(note, i'm old school i can't be arsed working out what the ccu
number is in fucked up 02x format :)


CF

-- 
'Cold Fire, Britains most notorious hacker' Observer, July 1997
'The most recent conviction was that of [Cold Fire] whose On-line
escapades spanned from hacking into educational sites to more
sinister activities such as tapping into industrial and United
States military sites.' DC Paul Cox, SO6 Scotland Yard CCU

In article <[email protected]>,
  "Dave Wade" <[email protected]>
wrote:
> If things like Dragon Dictate can recognise speech, surely decoding
> something as simple as
> DTMF codes should be in the realms of freeware??

I still use a cracked version of DTMF_DEC.EXE written *aeons* ago
that uses the SB16 for decoding, and only requires a bog standard
386 to run, so no, it's no great shakes decoding MF.

Very handy for checking out LCR box operations :-)

In article <L8q56.43816$Ig.184831@news1-hme0>,
  "NBT" <[email protected]> wrote:
> 131  still works!   NTL have plans to phase it out though.
>
> "Dave J" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > "Richard" <[email protected]> loudly whispered :
> >
> > >131 is the Cable& Wireless pre-dial for cheaper calls.  You need to suffix
> > >131 with your C&W account code.  No code, no cheap calls.
> > I think you'll find that's 132

131/132

without meaning to piss on your chips, they're both C&W LCR access
codes, check the oftel listings and see. One is for the C&W LCR box
(Basically an embedded modem and dialler that is reprogrammed from
 a central C&W OMC via an 0800 - run a DTMF decoder on the audio
 outout and observe the fun) and the other is for manual or
"blue button" access. Try hacking out a C&W access code sometime,
you've only got a 10 digit space to attack. Heh.

Each LCR box is programmed with the users CLID and the OMC
keeps track of usage and the like by the box dialling into it,
sometimes in the dead of night, hence the click / click
when no calls are in progress.


You can pick up patent applications for the LCR box ICs easily
enough, and it's definitely a more polished product than the
crap that energis and the like distribute to their customers.
All in all, quite a fun hack.

I can't honestly remember which access code is for the box and
which was was for manual.

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In article <[email protected]>,
  [email protected] wrote:
> Hi there i just got my site up check it out.
>
> http://TheMAFIA.ipfox.com
>


Whats with the hats like? You all look like you should be out in
the park with a bottle of MD 20/20 or Buckfast, heh.

"Aright troops, hows it goin and aw that eh"


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In article <[email protected]>,
  [email protected] wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
>   KP <[email protected]> wrote:
> > In article <[email protected]>,
> >   [email protected] wrote:
> > > Hi there i just got my site up check it out.
> > >
> > > http://TheMAFIA.ipfox.com
> > >
> >
> > Whats with the hats like? You all look like you should be out in
> > the park with a bottle of MD 20/20 or Buckfast, heh.
> >
> > "Aright troops, hows it goin and aw that eh"
> >
> > --
> > Not giving a fuck what you or anyone else thinks since 1991
> >
> > Sent via Deja.com
> > http://www.deja.com/
> >
> Hey KP i drink bucky and don't ware no hit my m8s were the hats and
> there pics will soon to be going!!!
> BigBarr
>

Spoken like a true jakie.

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In article <[email protected]>,
  "LC" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Is there anyway to find exact distance from my exchange using 17070 ?
>
> TIA
>
>

I think you'll find it's pretty simplistic to do so with the
line test / ringback function - it has been known to balls up
if there's any strange devices on the line though, like WB900a's
(Try it from a payphone pillar and see what I mean).

If youre deadly serious, build your own wheatstone bridge, 'cos
thats all it is, an ALIT hooked onto a bunch of resistors.

C'mon people, get with the program, eh.


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In article <PiG36.29025$y5.92799@news2-hme0>,
  "Wolf Man" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Ash <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > try WinTone
> > http://www.steaksandwich.com/software/wintone.html
> >
> >
> Anything for DOS?  I've seen pager sized machines that will do it, probably
> expensive though.
>
> --


http://deceptively.shady.org/~kp/tools/dtmf386.zip

Haven't used it for quite a while mind you, should be the cracked
version though. It'll work with any Legacy SB card AFAIR.

KP

Howdy,

I tried looking for an FAQ, but unfortunately one does not seem to
exist, and so I'm reduced to asking flat out for information :-)

I'm looking for information on Trunking scanners, specifically
resellers within the UK; I've had a look around, and the majority
of places seem to do them on import - frankly I'd rather just buy
here.

Secondly, is cellular and state PMR blocked on these units
(I'd imagine this to be the case);

Thirdly, can any of them handle the range of frequencies used
in WLLs by Tadiran equipment?

If anyone is or has worked in the past with Tadiran equipment
or V5.2 interfacing I'd also be interested in speaking to them.

Apologies if this is a bit askew for this forum.

KP


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If you contact  your local po lice, you'll
find them most accomodating to your intended activity.

KP <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I'm looking for information on Trunking scanners, specifically
> resellers within the UK; I've had a look around, and the majority
> of places seem to do them on import - frankly I'd rather just buy
> here.
> Secondly, is cellular and state PMR blocked on these units
> (I'd imagine this to be the case);
> Thirdly, can any of them handle the range of frequencies used
> in WLLs by Tadiran equipment?
> If anyone is or has worked in the past with Tadiran equipment
> or V5.2 interfacing I'd also be interested in speaking to them.

In article <[email protected]>,
  "Radio Ham" <[email protected]> wrote:
> If you contact  your local po lice, you'll
> find them most accomodating to your intended activity.
>

Well, given that the "intended activity" is not actually
illegal in the context of application I had in mind, I'll
thank you for your *fantastically* constructive input and
contact the manafacturers direct.



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Rubbish. The WTA makes no allowance for any "application".

"*fantastically*"??  Stupid boy.

KP <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
>   "Radio Ham" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > If you contact  your local po lice, you'll
> > find them most accomodating to your intended activity.
> >
>
> Well, given that the "intended activity" is not actually
> illegal in the context of application I had in mind, I'll
> thank you for your *fantastically* constructive input and
> contact the manafacturers direct.
>
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com
> http://www.deja.com/

In article <[email protected]>,
  "Radio Ham" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Rubbish. The WTA makes no allowance for any "application".
>
> "*fantastically*"??  Stupid boy.
>


Y'know, it never cease to amaze me - you ask a simple question,
and someone decides to get pompous and rain scorn upon your idea.

FYI information, I was actually asked to look at WLL interception
as part of another project. Not being overtly skilled in wireless
application, I decided the best place to ask would be here;

Obviously I'm looking in the wrong place, as all I seem to have gotten
so far is a reply from someone who's obviously spent too much time
hunched over a jazz mag in their radio shed, trying not to soil
their tank top.

Pathetic - I honestly expected a more open attitude from a
technical forum to be quite honest.

Boy? Ha ha - Perhaps you'd like to meet me in person to see how
wrong you are? And some of the work we do (legally as well, I might
add). Or perhaps youre quite satisfied being the pompous *ass*
you are. You certainly seem to have some sort of *major* inferiority
complex anyway.

If you've got nothing technical to add, get a life.

Stupid Boy - Stupid old sod?


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KP <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
>   "Radio Ham" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Rubbish. The WTA makes no allowance for any "application".
> > "*fantastically*"??  Stupid boy.
> Y'know, it never cease to amaze me - you ask a simple question,
> and someone decides to get pompous and rain scorn upon your idea.
WRONG! Ham Radio is a respectable law-abiding pursuit. What I criticised,
without deciding "to get pompous and rain scorn upon your idea" was what
appeared to be a proposal for illegal activity.

> FYI information,
WRONG! "FYI information" equates to "For your information information".

>I was actually asked to look at WLL interception
> as part of another project. Not being overtly skilled in wireless
> application, I decided the best place to ask would be here;
Hardly likely. Is that the best excuse you could make up? You are
involved in a professional project and you decided to ask
some amateurs. If you were involved in any legitimate
capacity, then your business contacts would yield to
you the information you require.

If, as you imply, you are an ignoramus, then it is highly
unlikely that you would be awarded such work.

> Obviously I'm looking in the wrong place, as all I seem to have gotten
> so far is a reply from someone who's obviously spent too much time
> hunched over a jazz mag in their radio shed, trying not to soil
> their tank top.

And now you resort to childish ranting. Hardly the response of
a business professional, is it?

> Pathetic - I honestly expected a more open attitude from a
> technical forum to be quite honest.

There you go again, more unnecessary gratuitous remarks. This
is an entirely open forum, and we Radio Hams are entirley open
in our criticism of unlawful activities.

> Boy? Ha ha - Perhaps you'd like to meet me in person to see how
> wrong you are?
I was referring to your mental age, which has been well illustrated
in your remarks above.

> And some of the work we do (legally as well, I might
> add). Or perhaps youre quite satisfied being the pompous *ass*
> you are. You certainly seem to have some sort of *major* inferiority
> complex anyway.

More childish remarks from you. As I progress down your posting,
it bears less and less resemblance to a legitimate enquiry, and more and
more resemblance to a childish outbursst from someone who has been
caught out.

> If you've got nothing technical to add, get a life.
> Stupid Boy - Stupid old sod?

There you go again. How professional of you!

In article <[email protected]>,
  "Radio Ham" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Rubbish. The WTA makes no allowance for any "application".
>
> "*fantastically*"??  Stupid boy.
>

And while, we're at it, you inane, bigoted, myopic, ill-mannered
*cretin*, why is it you don't use your real name on this NG anymore?

Ooops, you used to! Silly me:

GARETH A EVANS
13 HARDENS CLOSE,
CHIPPENHAM,
WILTSHIRE,
SN153AA

01249-651-897

Now, If I got any of the details wrong, let me know *straight* away
and I'll pull another check. Simple enough to do, even if you are
ex-directory.

Now, if you want, I could order you up a simple disconnection, or
maybe some exorbitantly expensive services. Anythings possible on
your switch I see.

Now, why not shut up, sit down and let someone who's actually
had sex in the past few years (and will no doubt be more relaxed
for the experience - whoops; Too close to the bone?) post a reply
instead of annoying the *shit* out of the good (from what I have
seen having to put up with your egotistical *crap*) people who
frequent this NG.

BTW, if you'd like to take this further, feel free to do so,
nothing is more amusing than slapping down pompous twats like you.

Kind Regards,

KP

PS : *lurve* the work you did on the railways, shame you weren't
     appreciated, eh.


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SO, are you again trying to illustrate that you are
a professional associated in some way with the query that
you made, or are you trying to illustrate your
immaturity?

Stupid boy.

KP <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
>   "Radio Ham" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Rubbish. The WTA makes no allowance for any "application".
> >
> > "*fantastically*"??  Stupid boy.
> >
>
> And while, we're at it, you inane, bigoted, myopic, ill-mannered
> *cretin*, why is it you don't use your real name on this NG anymore?
>
> Now, if you want, I could order you up a simple disconnection, or
> maybe some exorbitantly expensive services. Anythings possible on
> your switch I see.
>
> Now, why not shut up, sit down and let someone who's actually
> had sex in the past few years (and will no doubt be more relaxed
> for the experience - whoops; Too close to the bone?) post a reply
> instead of annoying the *shit* out of the good (from what I have
> seen having to put up with your egotistical *crap*) people who
> frequent this NG.
>
> BTW, if you'd like to take this further, feel free to do so,
> nothing is more amusing than slapping down pompous twats like you.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> KP
>
> PS : *lurve* the work you did on the railways, shame you weren't
>      appreciated, eh.
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com
> http://www.deja.com/

<sigh>

Here's me thinking you'd shut up after being embarrased.

How about I give you a call to straighten things out.



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In article <[email protected]>,
  [email protected] (Aimaz) wrote:
> [email protected] (Gus) wrote in <979237286.8563.1.nnrp-
> [email protected]>:
>
> >Aimaz <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> Right I have been looking at mobile phone
> >> networls and seeing what the phone numbers
> >> for them are so far I reckon that.
> >
> >Why not just read the list on Oftel's web site?
> >
> >
>
> i wasn't aware of it's existance
> now i am thanks for everyone's help
>
> Steve P
>

Gus, stop giving away our 31337 0-day telco w4r3z d00d!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

;-)



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In article <[email protected]>,
  Dave J <[email protected]> wrote:
> [email protected] (Virtua7) Scribbled :
>
> >>My ISP (totalise) runs an unmetered service but the timeout on connections
> >>is one hour. I was wondering if anyone had a good option for keeping the
> >>connection alive. I know there are utilities out there and have found a few
> >>but I wondered what everyone else uses and has found to be any real use.
> >
> >It's unclear. Do you mean a timeout from lack of activity? or it
> >disconnects you after an hour of use?
> No, he means can he get round the auto cutoff time. This wants putting
> in the faq I think.
> NO you can't unless you can hack into their (oh f--k, which bit..?)
> ppp server? Anyway, it is controlled from their end and there is not a
> lot to be done afaik.
>
> --
> Dave Johnson
>

from my *extremely limited experience* (warning beacons and plenty of
reverb on that, please) it seems that the majority of flat rate (and in
some cases DSL) providers will give you unlimited access for a certain
period of time, then kick you and re-assign you a new IP;

*however*, upon installing a new NAT suite and cripple testing the
connection, this was found not to be the case at all; Just shit
NAT software.

If your'e dynamically assigned an IP, obviously they'll set a lease
on your IP to make sure you use the service *fairly*. ie: dload
your pr0n / warez / whatever, and GTF. Within the lease period.

Easy on udp traffic with a nice script to reconnect on drop, harsh
on streamed traffic. So if j00 r mr. netscape, everything is just
hunky dory, but try to dload an ISO image, and well;

feck, try it and see.



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In article <[email protected]>,
  CH3CH2OH <[email protected]> wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
>   "d35yph3r" <[email protected]> wrote:
> I don't know if you have seen one when they do it, but they
> > frequently 'Blue screen of death', or sometimes spit you out into a DOS
> > prompt.
>
> The only BSOD on these Sainsburys machines I saw did seem to have NT4
> RAS drivers loaded, so it is conceivable that some could have modem
> access. I hoped the BSOD was a one off, but if they are failing up and
> down the country, this does not say much for Sainsbury's quality
> control.
>
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>

why waste your fucking time?

Hack the barcode readers and get free shopping instead, we are,
hahahahaha.

Getting Sainsbury's to crack passwords for you, Jesus *H*, what next,
ask John Menzies if they'll do your wardialling for you?

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In article <[email protected]>,
  CH3CH2OH <[email protected]> wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
>   KP <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Hack the barcode readers and get free shopping instead, we are,
> > hahahahaha.
> >
> Is the computer security consultancy business not paying you enough
> money then ?
>


Nah, we just enjoy getting free shopping innit. ;-)


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In article <[email protected]>,
  [email protected] (Aimaz) wrote:
> [email protected] (Dave J) wrote in
> <[email protected]>:
>
> I'm sure someone will correct me if i'm
> wrong. But I imagine the way it works is
> there is a database on a central server which
> the barcode just contains a number.
> and the till just looks up the product name and
> price in the database.
>
> If i was making it thats how i'd do it neway
>
> Aimaz
>

<sigh>

Prices are set in-house.

AFAIR no prices are set save RRP on UPC barcodes.

Majority of supermarkets run inhouse IBM FEPs with AS400X in the
back office doing all the database shit. Warez are usually pumped
to head office via SNA in mass SQL dbase format. Or TCP/IP if
they can afford the license for IBM/ASx.

Want an easy example? Check out Radiohead's Pablo Honey album,
look at the barcode, they're good enough to give a rundown of the
UPC system on the rear. All the dox are PD, so go for yer life, and
hey;

Lets be careful out there.

Who said hacking led to harder forms of crime?

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In article <[email protected]>,
  Dave J <[email protected]> wrote:
> "P@BB" <[email protected]> Scribbled :
>
> >also: kp... do you just print out labels with barcodes on to cover over
> >existing barcodes and make the till think its another products at a differnt
> >(lower) price? or actually hack into the system? if so, how? through a till?
> >throught a terminal attatched to the tilling network??
> The one that appeals to me is those handheld pay as you go scanners in
> a few supermarkets. I wonder how the barcodes work because if they
> have seperate elements for product line and price then perhaps any
> (camera) observers would only be watching the product name, it would
> provide an extra layer of cammo at least.
>
> --
> Dave Johnson
>

YES here's a man who knows what I'm talking about not barcodes we're
haxx0ring but the fecking readers; pish easy we reckon with the right
tewlz (although yes kids you can forge barcodes for anywhere you
pl33333ze with the right software).

Incidentally, check em out when they're railed and go from there, eh :)


Hey, I'm #fux drunk, so sue my ass, heh.


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Hey folks,

Pissed as a fart, and chewing the fat.

And feeling *remarkably* amiable this evening to say the least, heh.

So, errr, like, new post and shit, nostalgia style.

For the sake of history, who's up for posting the most obscure
old-sk00l BBS heralds / caps / etc they can find?

Points system:

Fucking hardcore old-sk00l ASCII 2400 Palm Beach Data Network style :
30 points
Rare BBS :  20 points
Popular but well known BBS : 15 points
PD BBS that got pumped for latest flash/zmodem warez : 10 points
Shit BBS populated by todays playaz  :  10 points

Special bonus stars are awarded for the following instances:

 - Any posts by DoT^Matrix
 - Sysop listing "hot" codes
 - Any BBS listing Destructive Jungle files
 - Any posting of the infamous ESN /\/\an warez
 - Any mention of snarfing before 1994
 - Any mention of x.25 *success*

Bonus stars are worth 5 points.

The winner will receive:

 - 8 cans of Stella, gratis



Hey, not much, but all you have to do is grep those logs!

The winner is the player with the highest score on 14/02/00.


BONUS POINTS

 *** If your BBS was raided in situ, you double your score! ***

 ASCII only! No fucking TheDraw tekneeq here thank you very much.

<--- THIS IS JUST A GAME ---->

Let's play!


Let's start the ball rolling:



<--- Old sk00l DaC styleee --->

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+ REMEMBER CALLS R FREE WITH DA CCC! HAPPY PHREAKING!        - RAVER
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AAAH WELL...  BYE DAC..!!                                    - NOMAD
DOCKMASTER - THE SPACEFILLER WHILE DAC IS IN TRANSIT!        - ECK
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      [Node 1]    ----- UnAuThOrIsEd AcCeSs [PRIVATE] -----    Est 1990
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                        ONLINE 24 HOURS, 7 DAYS A WEEK
       24oo/48oo/72oo/96oo/12ooo/144oo bps (v42bis) transmission rates
             BrItAiNs LaRgEsT cOmPuTeR uNdErGrOuNd ReSeArCh BoArD
                       Newark, Nottinghamshire, England
                               SysOp: Phantasm


---

Hey, remember, this is just a laugh, so don't get serious on my
ass or anything. :-) Free beer for the winner like, regardless.

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Not giving a fuck what you or anyone else thinks since 1991

In article <[email protected]>,
  Cold Fire <[email protected]> wrote:
> [email protected] wrote:
> > In article <[email protected]>,
> >>
> >> liver, kidneys, braincells, Manchester 2600 does not support a
> >> lifestyle likely to lead to a halthy old age.
> >>
> >> CF 
> > and london 2600 does???? after a single sesh with drk, pegleg and
> > thegoat i was sooooooo f*ck*d that i had virtual amnesia .. jeez these
> > older hackers can *really cane it large* ....
>
> Yeah, standing arround the troc can cause nasty cramps and all
> those hamburgers over at McDonalds are seriously bad for your
> health....... lightweights
>
> bahahah
>

Very true, you've not had fun until yur bundled into the ambulance I
reckon.

--
Not giving a fuck what you or anyone else thinks since 1991

KP <[email protected]> wrote:

> Very true, you've not had fun until yur bundled into the ambulance I
> reckon.

You know full well the fun starts when you get out of the ambulance:

Nurse: Do you know where you are ?
KP:    Course I do, Glasgow 
Nurse: Try again, this is Manchester Royal Infirmary

CF

-- 
'Cold Fire, Britains most notorious hacker' Observer, July 1997
'The most recent conviction was that of [Cold Fire] whose On-line
escapades spanned from hacking into educational sites to more
sinister activities such as tapping into industrial and United
States military sites.' DC Paul Cox, SO6 Scotland Yard CCU

In article <[email protected]>,
  Cold Fire <[email protected]> wrote:
> [email protected] wrote:
> > I was hunting around for cryptography information and came across this
> > little nugget 
> > Unauthorised access (movie) 
> > http://bianca.com/bump/ua/ 
> > Has anyone seen this before, or even better has anyone got a copy?!?!?
>
> She was at AAA1 and it was was shown then, can't remember anything
> much about it other than that she was quite fit.
>
> CF

She was also intensely *irritating* and kept blabbing on about
hacktivisim and hacker ethics and all sorts of other hippy shit
as well.

Mind you, she did provide some degree of cover for nicking copies of
2600 off the table in the <sarcasm> LAN Room </sarcasm>.

And where the *fuck* did they find the people for the video?
About the most interesting thing they had was the short interview
with Phiber Optik, which was sparse as fuck.

Grrrr, rant, rave

PS : So you had to sweat it out in that fucking lecture hall ^H^H^H
     oven as well eh?

--
Not giving a fuck what you or anyone else thinks since 1991

In article <[email protected]>,
  Cold Fire <[email protected]> wrote:
> Gus <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Mr Potatohead <[email protected]> wrote: 
> >>  1. Pacnet - Mobile phone network for Military use in UK, used by MI5 and 6
> >> as well as major political representatives for international calls to
> >> diplomats. 
> > Pacnet? It's really not that exciting, to be honest. You'd have to defeat the
> > X.25 closed user group mechanism to get to anything remotely interesting, and
> > that is /hard/.
>

<BING>

Wrong fucking answer Mr. Potatohead, having seen PAKNET from the inside
out, BOXER is the network your're thinking of, PAKNET is primarily
an EPOS and finanical network. Hey, if you want, we'll sell you
Radio PAD source.

Military, pah.

--
Not giving a fuck what you or anyone else thinks since 1991

Yeah well, see the subject like.

There's not much that hasn't been touched to some degree quite frankly,
but to be fair, just because you have a dialup doesn't mean you own the
place. But ehhh, we do, so there. And We Rule and tings.

Hey, top of my list? IPOMS, Marconi, Siemens.

Go figure.


--
Not giving a fuck what you or anyone else thinks since 1991

In article <[email protected]>,
  crypt <[email protected]> wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
>   [email protected] wrote:
> > well there's a load of dickheads in blackpool who try this so instead
> > of blocking, waiting and unblocking them, just go and unblock them
> > before the dick's get back.
> > this way you can make 20p and piss people of.
> >
>
> what do you care, sure, you'll make 20p and piss some people off, but
> I'd rather piss BT off a bit and help some obvoiously strapped for cash
> people.  BT has pleanty of money, if it didn't it wouldn't spend all
> this money on catching these people.  Why help BT out? they're a bunch
> of corprate fuckwits


As opposed to crusty students with affordable principles?

--
Not giving a fuck what you or anyone else thinks since 1991

In article <[email protected]>,
  LJ Parratt <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hmm, how immature. Now me, I don't actually care too much about sex, or
> money. Being cuddled up and warm with someone I love is enough to keep me
> happy.
>
> Perhaps you people should evolve socially beyond a 14 year old boy, and
> find out what life is really about?
>

Things that make KP happy:

1. Dumbos who leave PWD1 and PWD2 unchanged.
2. Dumbos who leave BARS routing unchanged for 9XXX.
3. Dumbos who provide Out of the box defaults for high end
   Video on demand and Voice switches.
4. Dumbos who leave their NUIs in their client software.
5. Dumbos who don't know how to configure CUGs.
6. Dumbos who forget to revoke login access to LDEV.
7. Dumbos who leave CMDS:DEBUG untouched. Password grabb0r tekneeq!
8. Unpassworded XMATE access. Yum yum!
9. CallXpress software that no-one has bothered to audit.
10. Drinking Guiness and snorting charlie until I feel like I'm
    going to faint.

Ooops. Sex isn't on there. Ah well. Combine all the above and you've
got an average week really ;-)

--
Not giving a fuck what you or anyone else thinks since 1991

In article <[email protected]>,
  "chris101" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hey, I wonder if you can help...
>
> I'm trying to make a documentary about Hackers (what they are really like )
> show the difference between a hacker and a cracker.
>
> If you know any hackers that would like to help out, maybe do an interview,
> anonymous if they want. I'm trying to make some contacts.
>
> only one thing, the hacker must be living in Glasgow, Scotland (making the
> transport easy)

Hey Chris,


I live in Glasgow, give me your phone number and I'll think about
it.

After all, I havent played the Nortel game for a while now. Should
be quite fun.

--
Not giving a fuck what you or anyone else thinks since 1991

In article <[email protected]>,
  "chris101" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hey, I wonder if you can help...
>
> I'm trying to make a documentary about Hackers (what they are really like )
> show the difference between a hacker and a cracker.
>
> If you know any hackers that would like to help out, maybe do an interview,
> anonymous if they want. I'm trying to make some contacts.
>
> only one thing, the hacker must be living in Glasgow, Scotland (making the
> transport easy)
>
> thanks
>
>

Even *better*, just give me the prefix, let me sweep it, then shit
yourself every time the phone rings or acts up!

--
Not giving a fuck what you or anyone else thinks since 1991

Remember;

Always consult your local brain before posting.

Try looking out for a GSM network services / function summary,
and I think you'll find all you need neatly covered.


--
Not giving a fuck what you or anyone else thinks since 1991

Right. Lets clear a few things up.

1. Me and Coldfire are the only elite people who post to this group. Period.
2. The rest of you are a bunch of clueless inept retards, comprised mostly of 
   ankle-biters (who quite frankly, would have to stand on a chair just to kiss
   my ass), student wannabes, boring 9-5 admin fuckups with no social skills
   who didnt have the bottle to hack *anything* in the first place and now 
   sprout wood when they get to post their woefully inadequate *bullshit* and 
   have the kiddies fawn over their every word (You, gandalf are the worst 
   offender of the lot, although it has to be said Ben Conwy runs a close 
   fucking second merely in terms of verbal wankathons; at least he posts 
   semi correct information), ridiculously unskilled and frankly laughable 
   lamers who think that by coming out with a snippet along the lines of 
   "haha, I know your mums credit rating", you can scare someone into 
   submission, and frankly downright fucking annoying ugly bitches pimping 
   their scene whore asses all over the shop and getting off on the 
   social-retard action.

   You make me fucking *sick* to my stomach, and I would like nothing better
   than to gas you all like badgers, neatly executing the survivors with a 
   boot to the chops like the unrelenting vermin you are.

   See you all at DNSCon you fucking polesmokers.

---
1mcw

In article <[email protected]>, (lisp) wrote:
>One Man Crime Wave <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Right. Lets clear a few things up. 
>> 1. Me and Coldfire are the only elite people who post to this group. Period.
>
>Why? Because you can break computers?
>
>Oh, I'm so impressed.
>
>Perhaps you should get on some Leuprorelin Acetate, because you clearly have far
>too much testosterone.
>
>I'm not, and never will be, impressed by 99% of the kind of people who hang around
>here. Computers doing new and exciting things, exceeding their limits, due to the
>skill of the person operating them impresses me. Not someone being a pain in the
>arse to other people by trying, to an extent, ruin their lives.
>
>> 2. The rest of you are a bunch of clueless inept retards, comprised mostly of 
>>    ankle-biters (who quite frankly, would have to stand on a chair just to kiss
>>    my ass), student wannabes, boring 9-5 admin fuckups with no social skills
>>    who didnt have the bottle to hack *anything* in the first place and now 
>>    sprout wood when they get to post their woefully inadequate *bullshit* and 
>>    have the kiddies fawn over their every word (You, gandalf are the worst 
>>    offender of the lot, although it has to be said Ben Conwy runs a close 
>>    fucking second merely in terms of verbal wankathons; at least he posts 
>>    semi correct information), ridiculously unskilled and frankly laughable 
>>    lamers who think that by coming out with a snippet along the lines of 
>>    "haha, I know your mums credit rating", you can scare someone into 
>>    submission, and frankly downright fucking annoying ugly bitches pimping 
>>    their scene whore asses all over the shop and getting off on the 
>>    social-retard action.
>
>It seems you think life is a competition. Do you come here and try and show off
>because you have a small penis? Because from your attitude, that's what it seems
>like.
>
>Ok, so the people here might not know everything about computers. I am of the
>firm belief that you know next to jack shit. I imagine you know how to *break*
>them, but let's see you, say, knock up some AI. Maybe a program that can solve
>the travelling sales person problem for a large network in under 30 seconds in
>95% of cases. Or maybe some software that can match up badly spelled barely
>related image documents at high speed from a huge database.
>
>I doubt you'd even know where to look. After all, there's none of that primevil
>smashing to be done.
>
>I'd much rather have conversations with people who don't seem as sexually
>insecure as you do, and have some wits behind their eyes.
>
>PaBB, Pi, Virtua7, etc. (and of course, the delectable Lauren ;> - the list goes
>on) - you note they don't go bragging about how 3733+ they are. They're just here
>for an exchange of knowledge, rather than the willy waving contest you're expecting.
>Even Coldy has a sense of humour (even if he does ph33r me and Lauren :oP)
>
>Must get around to meeting them some time...
>
>>    You make me fucking *sick* to my stomach, and I would like nothing better
>>    than to gas you all like badgers, neatly executing the survivors with a 
>>    boot to the chops like the unrelenting vermin you are.
>
>If you don't like us, piss off.
>
>>    See you all at DNSCon you fucking polesmokers.
>
>No, you won't.
>

Hahahahah!

Nice beard BTW - did you expressly go out and look for someone with matching
facial hair just so you wouldn't feel left out?

Biatch.


>-- 
>(lisp) - http://www-users.york.ac.uk/~ljp7
>A man walks into a bar and asks for an entendre.
>"Single or double?" "Double."
>He gave him one.


-- 
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[email protected]

In article <994202817.815629@dionysos>, UKA wrote:
>
>> Fuck me, that was a while back. Hey, I can dress up as an engineer in
>> the provacy of my own home now, I got the full regalia, jacket, helmet,
>> jumper, boilersuit, bag, test-set, buttinski, keys, etc. 
>
>The only thing missing from that list is a BT wage slip!(or perhaps you 
>failed to mention that for some reason?! :)
>
>If I had all that stuff I wouldn't be sat in my home dressed up in it, Id 
>just pop down to my local exchange during the day a walk on in. No one will 
>ever no.. Heh
>
>UKA
>"The Future's Bright.. The Future's Black"

Ah well, this is it. Who's to say I dont routinely wander in and out of 
offices and switches dressed like this? Indeed, were I to admit this,
would that make me a criminal, or an engineer?

Or the devious prick that sits and wades through TABLE:DNINV hunting for
your subs number...

:-)

---
[email protected]

In article <994202817.815629@dionysos>, UKA wrote:
>
>> Fuck me, that was a while back. Hey, I can dress up as an engineer in
>> the provacy of my own home now, I got the full regalia, jacket, helmet,
>> jumper, boilersuit, bag, test-set, buttinski, keys, etc. 
>
>The only thing missing from that list is a BT wage slip!(or perhaps you 
>failed to mention that for some reason?! :)
>
>If I had all that stuff I wouldn't be sat in my home dressed up in it, Id 
>just pop down to my local exchange during the day a walk on in. No one will 
>ever no.. Heh
>
>UKA
>"The Future's Bright.. The Future's Black"

And further to my previous post before some #darkcyde kiddy pedant jumps
on it, this includes OBASS controlled sites as well, so there.




---
[email protected]

In article <[email protected]>, Dazed & Confused wrote:
>"Bob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>
>> I was doing a bit of scanning today on one of the new-ish BT
>> payphones, which have red plastic roofs, LCD display etc but can't do
>> SMS like the really new ones. I hung up and noticed the following
>> rather strange messages appearing on the LCD :
>>
>> PLEASE WAIT, BUSY                    3
>> Rx
>> Tx
>>
>> These appeared one at a time, then it went back to normal. WTF is
>> going on here?? Obviously the paranoid explanation is that it's
>> phoning BT security to come and get me, but I don't think that's very
>> likely .... apart from anything else it wouldn't tell you it was doing
>> it, would it :^)
>
>(BT Payphone 2000 I think they're called)
>
>Ah, i've seen that happen before myself, it was once a topic in this group a
>while back, most people came to a conclusion that it might be updating
>firmware.
>Oh yeah, if you are wondering, Rx means recieve and Tx means transmit
>(iirc).
>
>--
>Dazed
>[I thought, therefore I was]
>Please remove 'Your Knife From My Back' before replying by E-mail ...
>
>
>


Fucking hell, kids of today.

The system is contacting IPOMS; 

 (Integrated Payphone Operations and Management System)

to perform housekeeping tasks such as Cashbox reporting, PROM software updates,
usage statistics, and fault reporting on the bus modules depending on the 
revision of the phone board and firmware.

If you wanted to access IPOMS it would be simplicity itself to bridge the 
phoneline and not only record data for later analysis and playback to a 
modem but grab the MF as it sets up the call.

The phone IS NOT contacting BT Security unless your'e in the process of 
jacking open the cashbox or the unit itself without a key. 

IPOMS replaces the older COINS system, I cant remember when it was phased in.
And yes, all GPT / Landis Gyr / BT phones come complete with modem. Originate
only I'm afraid, so put away your wardiallers.

IPOMS was on TV a while back on that gay special on phone phreaking, showing 
fault and vandalism reports originating from units under attack.

We have access, so nyah nyah.
 
---
[email protected]

NFJ;

SHUT THE FUCK UP!

Take your idiotic monglike mewlings *back* to school, college, uni,
wherever, and PISS OFF! You're a fucking *joke* and quite frankly
if you were on fire I wouldnt piss on you to put you out.

Now take your copy of Hackers, The Matrix and all your William
Gibson novels, shove them right up your *arse* and *fuck off*
while your at it, you useless inane fucking wankrag.

I thought the majority of people in here were useless, but you,
YOU bring ineptitude and amateurism to a new level. This isnt
a fucking hobby, it's a criminal activity, pure and simple, and
the sooner you realise that the *better* for all concerned.

Here's hoping you die of fucking cancer you fuck.

In article <[email protected]>, Cold Fire wrote:
>The Phinn <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Check this out. Its my Zonealarm alert log. I got 17 requests for port 80 in
>> 5 minutes.
>
>what the fuck are you on, let me know where you got some, given
>that your on what looks like a dynamic ip what you mean is a
>couple of stray packets probably detined for whoever was on your
>ip the hour/day/week before reached your box. Or that you got
>hit by a worm looking for IIS boxes. Or just someone scanning
>your subnet for web servers. From might I add a korean site. 
>
>
>> Me thinks someone accidentally pointed a DNS thingy at my IP and made the
>> world think I was a website for 5 mins.
>
>get a fucking clue, wtf does DNS have to do with this, if you
>can't understand the most baic output of zonealarm why are you running
>it.
>
>Sorry phinn, but you don't look this dumb in the rest of your
>posts. 
>
>Plus, more to the point, you wanna be a hacker, you post to a hack/
>phreak newsgroup, and here are trying to grass someone up for
>doing the same as you ????
>
>Err, realitycheck!
>


Phinn,

After checking your "site" out (and I mean that in the losest
sense of the word) I've reached the concrete conclusion that you are
truly one of the most clueless tossers on this group.

Case in Point:
17099 = Emergency Services backdoor; If you had an inkling of sense
you wouldnt have come out with something as moronic as that.

Your *astounding* lack of understanding with regards to TCP/IP is 
pretty funny too.

Your posts just seem to echo how much of an eager beaver kiddie you
really are, so go back to playing haxx0r like a nice little 
linux monkey, and maybe we wont jump on your skull if you turn up
at DNS.

Sincerely yours,

The nastiest cunt you will ever hope to meet.

In article <[email protected]>, AB wrote:
>> Keltic Phr0st - uberl33t phreak, bestest buds with Darkcyde, Hybrid and that
>> merry crew.
>
>Keltic Phr0st - don't mean shit to me......
>

Give it time, I'll fix that, no worries.

>Darkcyde and Hybrid I know by reputation and they don't seem the type to
>carry passengers.
>If he's in their crew, he must bring something good to the party.
>

"Know by reputation"

what, ph34r 0ur v3rb4t1m btEJ c0py1ng t3kn33q *or*
l00k 4t ouR 3133+ gr0up, 0h n0, w3've b33n 0wn0red!!!?!?!?!?!

"In their crew"

Yeah right, u r on fucking *drugs*, those cunts would have to stand
on a chair just to kiss my ass.

WHO'S THE FUCKING DADDY

KP

In article <[email protected]>, 
The Phinn wrote:
>
>"AB" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> > The nastiest cunt you will ever hope to meet.
>>
>> You're probably right, but you forgot to mention that you're also the
>> biggest nutsack too.
>>
>> CF continually stuns us with his acid wit aimed at the mistakes of others,
>> but at least he clarifies why he's attacking them. He takes a few shots at
>> Phinn, points out his mistakes and leaves the carcass for the buzzards. It's
>> his way of offering constructive criticism, while maintaining his air of
>> mystery.
>
>Good, isn't he?
>
>> Who the fuck are you??
>
>Keltic Phr0st - uberl33t phreak, bestest buds with Darkcyde, Hybrid and that
>merry crew.
>

Actually phinn, *way* fucking wrong; I think you'll find I hate everyone,
and particularly enjoyed nuking Darkcyde last year. Dont ever even put me
in the same category as those drooling simpletons.

Might I also add, those fuckwits started phreaking after reading OUR
files. We've been around for years, and we'll be around when every
other fucker has a nice boring job after leaving University.

<pause for cold beer>

>> I can't help but notice that you are non-specifically critical, pointing out
>> areas you say are wrong, but offering none of the explanation we've come to
>> expect from CF. Also, why jump on the carcass after CF has done the hard bit
>> if you're as knowledgeable as you'd like us to think??
>
>Probably cos he gets off on it.
>

Probably because I like to see people minus a clue get steamed at me
voicing my opinion.

>> Who the fuck would want to meet a nasty cunt anyway?? (I was going to put a
>> 'Your Mother' joke in here, but that might be going too far)
>>
>> Did I call you a nutsack??
>> Oh....right.
>
>KP, I may be lame and you may be l33t, but that doesn't make you exempt from
>being an arsehole.
>

Phinn, I may be the fucking daddy and you might be a dogs egg on my shoe,
but that doesnt make me exempt from smacking you in the head with a 
pint glass.


Did I mention my penchant for assault? Dont worry, I'm sure we'll get on fine
when we meet.

KP

In article <[email protected]>, AB wrote:
>> The nastiest cunt you will ever hope to meet.
>
>You're probably right, but you forgot to mention that you're also the
>biggest nutsack too.
>

And of course, AB, with your infinite insight into human nature and 
down wit da homies view from your nice little NTL account, you'd
be perfectly qualified to voice said opinion - frankly, I couldnt
give one round fuck what you think.

>CF continually stuns us with his acid wit aimed at the mistakes of others,
>but at least he clarifies why he's attacking them. He takes a few shots at
>Phinn, points out his mistakes and leaves the carcass for the buzzards. It's
>his way of offering constructive criticism, while maintaining his air of
>mystery.
>Who the fuck are you??
>

I'm the person that'll be listening to your phonecalls pretty soon;
I presume that if your on ntlworld, your going with their phone
service as well? In all honesty, I'd seriously think about who
you choose for your telco in future, esp when they run such
piss poor switch security.

I'm closer than you think you dumb fuck.

>I can't help but notice that you are non-specifically critical, pointing out
>areas you say are wrong, but offering none of the explanation we've come to
>expect from CF. Also, why jump on the carcass after CF has done the hard bit
>if you're as knowledgeable as you'd like us to think??
>

Because I like to antagonise clueless twats like you, and find it amusing
much in the same manner as holding a midget at arms length while they
swing their arms to attack you.

>Who the fuck would want to meet a nasty cunt anyway?? (I was going to put a
>'Your Mother' joke in here, but that might be going too far)
>
>Did I call you a nutsack??
>Oh....right.
>
>AB
>
>

Pat yourself on the back AB, you just made the shit-list!


KP

In article <[email protected]>, PapaLazarus wrote:
>no free jack Said:
>"Could u hook a laptop up 2 a ntl box? cos someone said u can
> but im not sure if u can. they are web enabled so what do u need?"
>
>Maybe you should start with something a tad simpler before you take on NTL.
>
>Read "the cuckoo's egg'     ISBN: 0-370-31433-6
>Then read Phinn's site.
>Then try to set-up a serial link over the mains supply, ideal for playing
>Doom :)
>Then try the NTL box.
>
>Yours
>    PapaLazarus
>
>


Yeah, and remember not to leave your real name and address on prescription
medicine so that people can use it to get your address and phone number.

That would be *really* fucking stupid.

KP

In article <[email protected]>, (lisp) wrote:
>Cold Fire <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Sakurashi <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> why is there so many sex posts ?
>>> Is alt.ph.uk turning into a sex newsgroup !
>> because lisp is a troll
>
>I'm not a troll! Ask Lauren!
>

He meant troll as in ugly freak that squats underneath a bridge
with copious patchy body hair and indiscriminate sexuality as
opposed to the more common or garden usenet 'troll'.

Now get back to the operating table freak, and tell Igor to
do a better job next time.

In article <[email protected]>, BigBarr wrote:
>www.bonkerz.org


Bigbarr,

Much as it *pains* me to restrain myself in such a fashion;

Your'e previous page divulged you, your friends and other associated gimps
personal details (photos included). 

This one has you pegged as a hacker, whihc frankly I couldnt care less
about because the meaning of the term is all relative to the individual,
but what really, *really*, REALLY FUELS MY FUCKING ENGINE WITH HIGH GRADE
VITRIOL OCTANE IS WHEN PEOPLE CALL THEMSELVES PHREAKERS!

That's my tuppence on the topic.

KP

In article <[email protected]>, (lisp) wrote:
>KP <[email protected]> wrote:
>> but what really, *really*, REALLY FUELS MY FUCKING ENGINE WITH HIGH GRADE
>> VITRIOL OCTANE IS WHEN PEOPLE CALL THEMSELVES PHREAKERS!
>
>What really gets me is people who claim to be so brilliant and then 
>demonstrate a lack of a grasp of even basic chemistry.
>

Lisp,

if your so smart, then why do you need to go to university?

<queue mindless "hacker not cracker" drivel about self-appraisal,
 coupled with a few inevitable references to sexuality and / or
 genital status, topped off with an oh-so original sting in the
 tail of "I'm at York University me, I must be dead clever".>

Fucking students, yer all the same. Doesn't your AUP cover browsing
newsgroups like this?


>-- 
>(lisp) - http://www-users.york.ac.uk/~ljp7
>Troll am I?
>Even if I haven't got the looks, at least I've got the brains,

Debatable. Highly. Let me be the first to pop that bubble and send
you *hurtling* back down to terra firma; There is a huge gulf between
common sense and academic intelligence. While I have no doubt in my 
mind that yes, you probably are quite intelligent on paper, and yes,
probably do have a relatively high IQ, probably more so than the
single cell life forms drifting thru here, you definitely seem to
be lacking in common sense.

Just because you managed to sail your way through some semblance of
an educational system and land on your feet in some UCAS funded 
auschwitz-esque halls of residence / flat / squat, does not give you
carte blanche to presume that your opinion is either a) welcomed or 
b) valued . Quite frankly, you could dribble on for ages about how
interesting your sex change is (incidentally, who funds that - the 
taxpayer or your parents?) and dazzle us with your A level knowledge
of miscellaneous un-interesting crap that we've chosen to forget
or obliterate with drug abuse; at the end of the day, this is a 
newsgroup, and you can't hide behind a keyboard forever.

Mark my words lisp, if you stood in front of me and mouthed off in
person (which I gravely doubt you would be foolish enough to do),
then I would quite happily pound your countenance until it resembled
that of a kilo of raw meat. That's not a threat, It's a wake-up 
call, as you seem to have your head so firmly lodged up your
own arse as to be bordering on the surreal. 

If you cant walk the walk then dont talk the talk - I get away with
being a nasty prick because strangely enough, I am not a nice 
person IRL, and can safely say that I've definitely seen more and
done more than you could ever hope to see in 20 odd years of living;
You are some sad little confused university undergraduate of 
non-specific gender who thinks that they can step to because
they've amassed so much inane academic knowledge. Here's a 
newsflash - university finishes soon, and once you've got that
degree / masters / whatever that you have no doubt worked hard
to achieve, then it's going to come as a shock to find that me
and coldfire are the least of your worries, as the outside world
(away from free internet access, occaisonal free cash from the 
state or other such student funding body and all your nice
preconceptions of what you want to do with your life) is
going to be a nasty, shitty, hard souless void which if you
continue along the lines your going with your annoying as hell
first / second year student attitude will either earn you a 
slap in the face with razor or a rapid plunging with a kitchen
knife.


>which is more than can be said for _someone_.

I survived running a major city centre nightclub for two 
years - how long would you last?

In article <[email protected]>, BigBarr wrote:
>Fuck man what is it with this news group now its full of newbies or
>cunts that is just posting to take the piss. Last year the
>conversations where relevant but now you can't post without getting
>slaged for even a simple spelling mistake! If only this place would go
>back to the way it was back in tha day!
>
>BigBarr & DavieB
>
>PS. If you want to bitch about this post e-mail me at
>[email protected] or come in to the cocytusuk irc channel @
>irc.cocytusuk.org chennel #cocytusuk and bitch at me OK.


Hey, we would you daft little tosser, but your uber-leet friends
k-lined most of the shells worth using on their single host irc
network yesterday.

KP

Dan Beale <[email protected]> wrote:

>>
>> deseption <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>> > I know this is a bit off topic, but could anyone recommend a good dial
>> > up isp in the uk for me?
>> >
>> > -deseption 
> "Adam" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Try milnet (141 08456389845)....a rarity in that it allows dialups with no
>> Caller ID enabled.  Logon as guest, password is guest.  Designed for
>> military personnel who dial out from barracks through exchanges that do not
>> permit Caller ID interrogation.  It's a normal civilian ISP.
>> 
> hmm, i dont know anything about milnet, and im not disputing your point
> about it needing clid or not But:- 
> 141 wont withhold your number from an isp.

bullshit, 141 will withhold CLID from any enduser, some ISP's who are 
OLO's however will get your number, this isn't anything to do with
CLID which is a subscriber service .

<KP butts in pissed as fuck and coked up>

Right, here is exactly what the difference is. IF you deny or allow callers based on 
CLID, then you are fihgting a losing fucking battle anyhow, becuase the ffact of the 
matter is, any mug can forge CLID. Simple. Any fucking monkey with a clue can do it,
but....


You *cannot* forge ANI.

ANI for you clueless cunts who pretende to be phone phreaks is what keep you from 
bleeding to death if you call 999. Simple explanation: As soon as your remote switch
recieves the IAM portion of the SS7 call, your *LINE* reciord and not ur subs gets
puished up. Unless u r some obscenely good coke headed phreak (like us) you can only
stop this at the switch or remove CDR records.

I doubt any cunt in here has either the bottle or skill to do that frankly.


Anyway, theres my tuppence worth you soft southern shits, now piss off back to AOL 
and stop annoying us.

KP

PS: he's right, you're wrong, we rule, and coke is great, CF
-- 
'Cold Fire, Britains most notorious hacker' Observer, July 1997
'The most recent conviction was that of [Cold Fire] whose On-line
escapades spanned from hacking into educational sites to more
sinister activities such as tapping into industrial and United
States military sites.' DC Paul Cox, SO6 Scotland Yard CCU

b33p <[email protected]> wrote:
> hey,
>        my phone was crackling a bit when ever i dialed or picked up,
> so i unscrewed the lid, i saw 2 little chips, i started to 4ck about
> with em and i found that the chip nearest the top off the phone (obove
> the keypad)
> made strange noises.. i even managed to drop in on a conversation, and
> could tune in to my local radio station..?.. does anyone know what
> this thing is? 
> b33p.


<KP, as b4, pissed as fuck and coked to the *gills*>


B33p.

1. Put your phone down.
2. Dont ever use it to go online
3. Post completely radnom shit theat no fucker in their right mind cares about
   under the illusion that people will *think* u r a fone phreak and listen to
   the shit u come out with anyway.


U fucking kiddies need to learn and in all frankness with the demise of BBSs you 
all seem to havw lost the power of using your fucking brain;


NEXT = Near End Crosstalk
FEXT = Far End CrossTalk

Now *piss off* and get back to playing with 17070..


Gay boy.



K
P

-- 
'Cold Fire, Britains most notorious hacker' Observer, July 1997
'The most recent conviction was that of [Cold Fire] whose On-line
escapades spanned from hacking into educational sites to more
sinister activities such as tapping into industrial and United
States military sites.' DC Paul Cox, SO6 Scotland Yard CCU

In article <[email protected]>, PoynD3xter wrote:
>>fuck off, this isn't your newsgroups its mine, if you don't like it,
>>hit unsubscribe.
>
>
>"Usenet is a series of discussion groups that focus on specific subject
>areas to fit almost anyone's hobbies and interests. Nobody owns Usenet or
>controls it."
>
>But hey, this is reality.
>You do get arrogant assholes who think they have,
>ownership over usenet.
>How naive.
>God luv em
>
>
>


No, we do actually own your sorry ass, regardless whether yoe be some
decrepit old fucker who thinks he can still step or some dumbshit school /
college / uni candidate.

Fact of the matter : CF and me OWN YOU ALL

We are in every system imaginable essential to your day to day existence.
God forbid you get admitted to hospital.
God forbid you need an ambulance.
God forbid you step and need to be re-aligned.

"Ahhhh, Ms. Parrett, according to our blood bank you are critically ill
 with AIDS and also qualify for detention under the mental health act.
 Here is a nice strait-jacket, now go and tout your pseudo assexual
 politcal BS in the ECT ward."


BTW, mental health detention form : Winging it's way t'wards yah in the
future - WITH FORCE IF NECCESARY.

Here's hoping they tear you a new arsehole you freak dipshit.

KP

In article <[email protected]>, Gus wrote:
>Chris Anderson <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> ok, which moron fell out of the wrong side of bed this morning.
>> Oh, its you gus.
>

Now, I'm just going to have to put my hand on you for this one;
Dont. Dis. Gus. 

>Ooh, raised tails!
>
>
>
>> You are your lame friends think you have skills just because you can
>> terrorise kiddies?
>

Actually, we have skills because we've been doing this for *years*.
Terrorising amoebic life-forms like yourself is part and parcel of
the whole thing IMHO.

>No, not at all. I actually *do* have hacking skills, in stark contrast to
>most of alt.ph.uk Added to that, I know how to post to Usenet, unlike
>you or that twat who posted the same message 'n' times. These things are
>important in case you didn't realise.
>
>Now, the trad way of pulling yourself up in the social scale is for total
>newbies to steam in w/ big front hoping to impress. Is that what you're
>doing?
>
>
>
>> The worst you can do is dig up docs on people.  Then you do shit all about
>> it.
>> Well, I'll make it easy for you, my docs are publically available.
>

Correction, we can dig up your dox, have a browse thru your credit 
history, pilfer your medical records, route around in your line
records, check your legal history and even PNC you.

ABs line records are sat in a folder in my flat, his credit 
history sits in Cold-fire's place, and his medical records
are a phonecall and default password away. Unfortunately he's
not done anything *significantly* illegal as far as I can see
so his sheet is clean (at the moment). AB is now a model poster,
well behaved, articulate and a joy to converse with.

Perhaps you could follow the same path?

I'd have *seriously* thought twice before stepping to Gus now.

>Duh, of course they are. "whois ironfire.org", for example. Dimwit.
>
>
>
>> Find me, come here, I'll fucking cut you a new arsehole.
>

With your razor sharp wit eh. 
Like fuck. How about you fuck off back to school / college / uni / 
dole / parents bedroom before this thread gets any momentum?
How about we a) find you b) I shoot you on your own fucking
doorstep?

>Heheheheh. Ok then. You going to DNScon? 
>
>

Cause I'll be there. And so will Cold-fire. And Gus. And Gamma.
And Ph0bos. And all our mates. And we fucking hate nu-school
lamers.

>
>> Author of http://www.ironfire.org/
>
>Which is shit, by the way, assuming google's cache is up to date.
>
>

I get the creeping feeling of having stood in a dog's egg 
after viewing that one...


Chris Anderson... Hmmm. 

Is that an anagram of CLUELESS DOGWANK?


KP

In article <[email protected]>, Cold Fire wrote:
>Chris Anderson <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>> okay, you can look at my credit history... you'll find nothing I dont have
>> one.
>> You can look at my med records, wow, good for you, you'll find I had weird
>> spots at the age of 7.
>> etc.  as for legal records, I'm squeaky clean, you should know I'd be more
>> careful than to get *caught* hehehe
>
>
>> The last DNScon someone ended up being thrown in the sea, lets see if it
>> happens again :)
>
>some little kiddie got thrown in the sea, by someother kiddies, proving
>mine a KP's points about the general deteriation in standards, as
>for it happening again, why would we throw you in the sea ?
>
>CF
>

Because he's some daft cunt who thinks every blackhat is some spotty
little teenage fucker hiding behind a keyboard?

Chris, bring it on; If I know you from old skool day then I'll buy you
a pint and apologise, but if not, best bow down to your new fuqn
masters.

Dumbshit dyslexic cack-handed motherfucker.


KP

In article <[email protected]>, Jim wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I discovered recently that what I though was an overgrown drain cover
>in my garden is in actual fact a BT cover.  I lifted the cover and
>underneath is a hole with a mass of cables going into a long black
>cylinder - similar to what is sometimes seen on telegraph poles.

Hrmmmmm.


Even interfereing with this is bad news if your a law abiding
citizen, courtesy of ISIS doc ref : SEC|ACN|A001.

Now, basically, what you have is either BT crossing or 
intermediary plant going underneath your premises.
To be honest (and to save on legal fees) I would 
let them do as they will with this rather than go to town
and waste cash *or* interfere with said plant.

Believe me, they take an exteremly dim view of this. :-)

If, however, they wish to further establish an RDP outside
your premises then I would strongly contest this.
Radial points not only look ugly, but are grossly inefficient
at their job (gone are the days when 25 pairs would do 
one street) unless you want to get shirty and start 
shouting abouts DACS and WB900 (dead tech a-piece, lets have
yer).

In all honesty;

I wouldnt worry about this.

All you have in your garden is a basic patching point.

No-one is going to build a PCP/SCP in your garden, furthermore,
if you wanted to you could wait until their back was turned and
steal their buttinski and uniform from the van, then wreak havoc :)


KP

In article <[email protected]>, DNS 4 wrote:
>http://www.fbi.gov/pressrel/pressrel01/leaveworm.htm
>
>Another case of FBI instigated UK police action. No reports yet of
>trench coated FBI "observers" participating in the arrest, like with
>Raphael "Curador" Grey
>
>Will this forthcoming case provide the legal clarification that
>"Curador"'s guilty plea prevented the court from ruling on about
>wether the lack of a warning saying "do not enter this system without
>permission" constitutes a defence under the Computer Misuse Act ?
> 
>It could be argued that a "worm" which only affects systems already
>compromised by the SubSeven trojan has by definition been granted
>permission to enter the system.
>
>The concept of deliberate intent to attack any particular computer
>system could also be hard to prove in a case of this sort.
>
>
>DNS 4, Sat 18th August, President Hotel, Blackpool
>http://www.dnscon.org/dns4

Were you also aware that the ideal "razor" should be straight edged,
very sharp, able to cut facial hair and not harm the user?

KP

In article <[email protected]>, Kamikaze wrote:
>I thought this was supposed to be a good NG.


BZZZZZZZZZZZ.


Wrong, we've suceeded in our goal of turning it into an insipid pile
of complete shit populated by wannabes!

Ever get the feeling you've been cheated readers?

/me rides off into the sunset laughing

KP

In article <[email protected]>, Dan McLean wrote:
>Actually when you put 141 in front of a number, your number is recorded by
>BT but you would have to get the police to do some sort of search of the
>phone records to get it. Not an easy task.
>
>


The incoming numbers are presented via ANI and held in the switch CDR
logs; If you're an SS7 capable endpoint and the call terminates on said
point it's relatively easy to grab the number during call setup when the
IAM is passed thru - retrieving the number from the telco CDR/AMA record
is a different matter, and would most likely require a warrant of some
description (having never had to legally obtain a callers number I 
wouldnt know the *exact* procedure).

CLIP is easily modified to present bogus details as well - most high
end PABXs provide for outgoing trunk CLIP modification, either for 
inserting DDIs or masking internal directory structure. It's that
easy to do the same for a PSTN switch. 

If youre mad keen on pulling CLIP to a greater extent, get your 
modem out and get coding - decent CLIP decoders are pretty easy 
to knock out.

Once again, CLIP is not ANI and ANI is not clip, and never the twain
shall meet.

KP

In article <[email protected]>, Mark Evans wrote:
>KP <[email protected]> wrote:
>> In article <[email protected]>, Dan McLean wrote:
>>>Actually when you put 141 in front of a number, your number is recorded by
>>>BT but you would have to get the police to do some sort of search of the
>>>phone records to get it. Not an easy task.
>>>
>>>
>
>
>> The incoming numbers are presented via ANI and held in the switch CDR
>> logs; If you're an SS7 capable endpoint and the call terminates on said
>
>Why is someone from UCL posting to UK.telecom using *US* terminology?
>
>Not only does the US use different terms from the rest of the planet
>(in telecoms as in other areas) the US (indeed NANP) telephone system
>is rather unique in a number of technical ways. Including having two
>different types of sending originating caller identification.
>

Mark,

Since when did SS7 / C7 (different things - this I know), CDR and ANI
specify US only terms?

I think you'll find CDR denoted quite commonly alongside SMDR analysis
equipment, and ANI in heavy use in inland transit / centrex.

I'm not going to get into a pissing match about this as it's the last
thing I want, nor do I want to take part in some pedantic thread about
ISO / CCITT parlance or CEPT / US signalling nuances, so that's me.

In article <[email protected]>, RS wrote:
>WOW !!!
>
>pld for actually contributing something :)
>
>RS


Yeah, well done, even if it has been scanned by every man and his dog 
since Mercury were assigned the range in the early 90s.

KP

In article <[email protected]>, Isamu14 wrote:
>u Tell me your qualificatons I tell u M5 security services recruitment number

I'm a convicted criminal who failed his probationary psychiatric test and
has paranoid schizophrenia, do I get the job?

KP

In article <[email protected]>, iCyDaVe wrote:
>Today i was walking past a phone box with some mates completely bored so i
>decided to make a prank call on the operator...i used the normally red
>boxing method to get a free call but instead of playing the tones down the
>line i held the phone away from my mouth and said "beeeeeeeeeeep" in a high
>pitch voice (not expecting it to work) and then the operator asks "ok thank
>you, how much was that you put in?" i replied by saying 20p and then made my
>call as normal! if anyone else tries this and it works for them please do
>email me!
>-iCyDaVe
>
>


Strangely enough I tried this as well, and it worked!

Then I myst have fallen asleep becasue when I wok up eye wuasin a big whiteeee
rooom with electrodess on mi head anddd nooo hair

In article <[email protected]>, Cold Fire wrote:
>Lord Xenophon <[email protected]> wrote:
>> "ian.waters4" wrote: 
>>> I tried the "beep" method and the operator told me "I make better noises
>>> than that!"
>>>
>> I belive the time honoured phrase is:
>> "Where did you record those tones? A railway line?"
>
>Operator, Operator, Have you any codes
>Yes Sir, Yes Sir, I've got Loads
>
>CF
>
>-- 
>'Cold Fire, Britains most notorious hacker' Observer, July 1997
>'The most recent conviction was that of [Cold Fire] whose On-line
>escapades spanned from hacking into educational sites to more
>sinister activities such as tapping into industrial and United
>States military sites.' DC Paul Cox, SO6 Scotland Yard CCU


One for the elite, none for the lame,
and one that gets me in the switch that handles your lane.

In article <[email protected]>, TBL wrote:
>I seem to recall it was Tue, 4 Sep 2001 17:12:33 +0100, when Mark Evans 
>[email protected] posted this...
>
>:: The US (possibly other parts of the NANP) has something called
>:: ANI. Which sends something called the "billing number", which
>:: may or may not be the number of the line making the call.
>:: 
>:: AFAIK the rest of the world has only CLI.
>
>ANI and CLI are very similar.
>ANI stands for Automatic Number Identification.
>CLI stands for Calling Line Identification but should technically be 
>referred to as OLI (Originating Line Identification) in most scenarios.
>
>Where ANI can be a number other that the actual physical OLI, CLI is 
>similar due to the introduction of Presentation Number.
>
>-- 
>TBL

Good to see someone who actually knows the difference between the two
speak up at last, this thread was just getting ludicrous.

How many times does OLO interworking, ANI and CLI have to be 
clarified before people finally get the gist of what goes on?
I dont think I'd sleep too well at night if the emergency services
relied on CLIP to determine location, thats for sure.

If you need it clarified again, ask.


KP

In article <[email protected]>, NapsterloverUK wrote:
>Yeah, the call centres of Britain have these oh-so-wonderful powerdiallers
>which call a few more people than there are staff for, and if you happen to get
>on their calling lists this can be a nightmare, because they can just say its a
>technical mistake and won't happen again. Then it does, at 2am, on your (my)
>home phone.

<tsk>

They're called predictive diallers, and they're governed by how many call agents
are answering/making calls and the rate at which they are answered/originated.
An essential part of any large ACD, software controlled, and great fun to ramp
up to ridiculous levels on residential prefixes.

KP

In article <[email protected]>, Ak_ wrote:
>I tend to agree :) although does bitchin about it improve your status? I think not.. If you thought the news group was that much dribble you would have stopped reading it, I only came back the other day to reply to that belfast post so I can't say on the current "skillz" of the people in the group and have no right to bitch at them, hack
>kiddie or not.
>
>What I'm trying to say is, There is no way you can stop the wave of hack kiddies and due to the PUBLIC nature of this newsgroup, it's obviously going to attract some freaks.... live life :)
>
>As for windows, all this ANTI MS shit is old, Windows 2000 is a half decent gui operating system, it still sucks the shite out of your resources and still has literally 1000's of bug fixes per service pack but jaysus christ, wake up.. it is now much more stable than previous versions and has alot more features, especially the server versions.
>Does no-one know the phrase "The right tool for the right job".
>
>And as for putting down RM Hacking, I remeber the joys of RM hacking in school, hands up who didn't enjoy there first RM hack? I mean, without RM hacking we'd never have had Quake/Duke3d game servers during free periods :)
>
>Can't be arsed typing anymore....
>
>cya
>.ak
>
>

It's like the mong leading the mong - who let the day-release scopers out?

>
>xganon wrote:
>
>> Ok after reading the group for a long time on and off I have came to the following conclusion
>>
>> Im not going to name any names but you all know who you are as you are guilty and should be raped at the stake.
>>
>> You just cut N paste lame extracts from text documents but really you cant put anything into practice.  You think you are a hacker because you run something except windows, but this doesnt make you any better.
>>
>> It just means you have more time on your hands to mess around with unix, probably because you are on the dole, as if you had real skills, you would put them to use and get a decent salary.  You also use your 'box' for downloading lame c scripts which you dont even understand and 'r00ting' boxes then doing really pointless things with them.
>>
>> How many of you can actually say youve 'hacked' something worthwhile?  I have even seen TV programs, where a few members claim to have almost celebrity status, I can except these must be skilled people, but in general most posts are general shite.
>>
>> I have studyed a few posts, when asked a question which needs a defintive answer, they always avoid , or just say rtfm, read google etc, when the real reason is they do not have a clue.  When for example a question pops up about something 'lame' such as windows or RM they are straight in there bloating their 'l33t knowledge'
>>
>> Please feel free to comment / flame as much as you want, this thread should hopefully attract responses from the people this is aimed at.
>>
>> ?
>>
>> ---
>> This post was anonymized at http://www.xganon.com
>> Come visit the newest xganon server http://www.xganon.org providing
>>    rights and freedom related news.
>> ---
>


Can I fuck your sister when your done ranting?

KP

In article <[email protected]>, Adam wrote:
><snip>
>
>> Don't be daft things are much more interesting now. You are talking
>> about a time when if you wanted an answer phone you had to hire it
>> from the GPO at 2 to 4 quid a week. (As a reference at the time a bag
>> of chips cost about 15p).  Although muting probably still worked
>> then...
>>
>
>I have just replaced my father-in-law's answerphone - his original was given
>to him by BT in the end because they could not support it any longer!  It
>was plugged into one of the those old oval-shaped brown telephone junction
>boxes with a connector that looked more like a car cigarette lighter than
>anything else.  The actual answerphone was about two foot square, used
>tapes, and had inch-wide clunky buttons for playing and recording.  He's
>accelerated up to a digital answerphone now, which is supposed to work
>remotely, so he can dial home with his new mobile and check messages.  At
>least he would able to, if he didn't press the "end call" button for so long
>the mobile turns off and no-one can get hold of him......He currently gets
>ten a day telling him to "switch his frigging mobile on...."
>

I still have one of those units - Cant remember the exact name (Tern, perhaps)
but it looks like the top of a 1972 Hi-fi.

>He also signed up with Nynex, stayed with them when they became Cable and
>Wireless, and then to NTL.  Because he retained his original contract, he
>gets the whole package for about 8 quid!
>
>The first time I came across "inadvertent use of the telephone systems", it
>involved dialling the STD code for the area next to mine, then pressing
>zero, and redialling a long distance code for the person you really wanted.
>It only ever charged local rate calls this way.....a lot of this was passed
>by word of mouth, so now you have the ability to hunt down deeper
>information.  Things are more interesting because there is a lot more to try
>and learn!
>

I remember that warning, way back in the mists (Having said that, didn't
it dissappear at the same time as Buzby?)

KP

In article <XK6n7.10129$4j4.46010@NewsReader>, ody wrote:
>
>"Dan Beale" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:WZJm7.15365$NE.1060826@wards...
>> <snip>
>> but lots of people here will still have 286's (surely the 'nicest' puter
>> ever) (i still have my xt.)
>
>Funny u mention XT, Ive got a mint (as in perfect, not a spec of dust
>either) XT at my place in Wales, prob is Ive left it in the attic so Im
>guessing its not so mint anymore, anyway, its one of those with the bonnet
>like flip up hood(if that made anysense).. well I was contimplating modding
>it with a dual P166 board I got.. or would that be a sin against technology
>do you reckon? ;p
>
>-ody
>'just another freak'
>
>
>
>
>


Are you sure you didn't nick that from school?

KP

In article <[email protected]>, Cold Fire wrote:
>KP <[email protected]> wrote:
>> In article <XK6n7.10129$4j4.46010@NewsReader>, ody wrote:
>>>
>>>Funny u mention XT, Ive got a mint (as in perfect, not a spec of dust
>>>either) XT at my place in Wales, prob is Ive left it in the attic so Im
>>>guessing its not so mint anymore, anyway, its one of those with the bonnet
>>>like flip up hood(if that made anysense).. well I was contimplating modding
>>>it with a dual P166 board I got.. or would that be a sin against technology
>>>do you reckon? ;p
>>>
>>>-ody
>>>'just another freak'
>>>
>> Are you sure you didn't nick that from school?
>
>IT Technician Rhodes works in a nice modern school (not exactly as
>impressive as how Andy himself described it 'a division of the 
>government'), nothing that old there. Don't know what he's going on 
>about Wales for though, he lives in Rusholme, must be his parents.
>
>CF
>
>-- 
>'Cold Fire, Britains most notorious hacker' Observer, July 1997
>'The most recent conviction was that of [Cold Fire] whose On-line
>escapades spanned from hacking into educational sites to more
>sinister activities such as tapping into industrial and United
>States military sites.' DC Paul Cox, SO6 Scotland Yard CCU


Ahhhh, right.

Do you think he'll settle things the old fashioned way or do I 
have to motivate myself to do *another* line record search this
weekend?


KP

In article <ziao7.4633$2z4.5778@zonnet-reader-1>, Annika Cam wrote:
>Hi, I'm Annika and I got Private Pics, Vids and a SEX Livecam!
>
>http://annikacam.tripod.com
>
>Cya! XXX!


JAH JAH JAH

DAS IST SEHR GUHT

ICH KOMM!
ICH KOMM!

etc etc etc

In article <[email protected]>, 
ian.waters4 wrote:
>Is PRESTEL still used in the UK? I bought a Philips TD9901 for 2 quid at a
>car boot sale, and it can be used to check shit on PRESTEL
>
>

Don't know if prestel still runs these days, the last time I checked was
about 98/99, but the unit can most probably be used as a pretty solid
VIDTEX emulator - To this date, Ford dealerships and IATA / ABTA agents
still use VIDTEX albeit via Procomm. You'll often find it in the
unlikeliest of places ( a lot of local transport agencies use it too).

Given recent events in the US, I'd avoid the ABTA/IATA sites. :)

You can also use the unit to access HOBS (HOme Banking System).
I still have my old RBOS VIDTEX term with the pop-out keyboard - dead
handy when all else fails.

KP

In article <[email protected]>, 
Terry Bartlam wrote:
>Mail me and I should be able to attach a pdf file in return
>
>Terry
>
>
>
>
>"Scott Mitchell" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Does anyone happen to have this manual in any electronic format?
>>
>> Many thanks in advance,
>>
>> Scott
>
>

Alternatively contact Avaya for a copy - this will be the basic manual
and not however the one supplied to customer installations on CDROM.
They'll be more than happy to point you in the right direction.

KP

In article <[email protected]>, 
FrostbiTe wrote:
>god it was only a question no need to get sarcastic!.....try posting some
>worth while information instead of flaming everyone who YOU think asks a
>stupid question.........."Cold Fire, Britains most notorious hacker" lol
>YEAH
>
>Cold Fire <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> FrostbiTe <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > im trying to find out some resources on wardialing in the uk but there
>> > doesnt seem to be many around...anyone mind giving me a few pointers?
>> > thanks :-)
>>
>> errm, download toneloc/thcscan and run it, what resources exactly do you
>> need ?
>>
>> CF
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> 'Cold Fire, Britains most notorious hacker' Observer, July 1997
>> 'The most recent conviction was that of [Cold Fire] whose On-line
>> escapades spanned from hacking into educational sites to more
>> sinister activities such as tapping into industrial and United
>> States military sites.' DC Paul Cox, SO6 Scotland Yard CCU
>

It doesnt get much simpler -

1. Download Toneloc / THC-Scan
2. Proceed to dial

Do you need a fucking spoon or something?


PS : Fuck off back to AOL until you can learn how to read ToneLoc's
     docs and dont even start another bullshit thread about how we
     flame idiots that ask stupid questions (like you for instance).

PPS : Don't insult my working associates and friends or I'll stand
      on your head you lame southern faggot.


KP

In article <[email protected]>, Cold Fire wrote:
>KP <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> And just to add more wood to the pire - 
>> (Verbatim from Toneloc Docs) : 
>>  "To sum it up, Toneloc Rocks and if you don't read the
>>          docs, you're a LAMER!" 
>> This coming from the guy who wrote it.
>
>He's probably having trouble getting toneloc to work with the
>winmodem in the PC his parent bought him.
>
>CF
>
>-- 

/imagination -run_riot

"Dad, I can't get ToneLoc to work!"
'So ring the Curry's helpdesk'
"But they told me to piss off back to school!"

*or*

"What are these things called Interrupts and Fossils that they
 speak of?"

*or*

etc etc etc etc

I could go on all day.

KP

In article <[email protected]>, Cold Fire wrote:
>KP <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> And just to add more wood to the pire - 
>> (Verbatim from Toneloc Docs) : 
>>  "To sum it up, Toneloc Rocks and if you don't read the
>>          docs, you're a LAMER!" 
>> This coming from the guy who wrote it.
>
>He's probably having trouble getting toneloc to work with the
>winmodem in the PC his parent bought him.
>
>CF
>
>-- 

/imagination -run_riot

"Dad, I can't get ToneLoc to work!"
'So ring the Curry's helpdesk'
"But they told me to piss off back to school!"

*or*

"What are these things called Interrupts and Fossils that they
 speak of?"

*or*

etc etc etc etc

I could go on all day.

KP

In article <vy3u7.1260$V21.63480@wards>, Dan Beale wrote:
>
>"KP" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>>
>> "What are these things called Interrupts and Fossils that they
>>  speak of?"
>
>I was just about to mention fossil drivers.
>Them were the days.
>
>standalone z-modem protocols for procom+.
>
>liking kermit.
>
>etc.
>
>(is procomm plus the best comms software for pc and dos??)
>
>

BZZZZZZZZZZ

Telix is, esp. with the combined SiaC crack for the 3.22 TELIX.EXE
(I;ve lost count of how many places I've owned with scripts I wrote
 in SALT, up to and including stealth PDN scanners) although having
said that Procomm has more terms than you can shake a shitty stick at.

KP

In article <[email protected]>, 
FrostbiTe wrote:
>im not a 'script kiddie', and when i asked that question i meant, what do i
>do when i find a carrier and to KP's post i did read the docs and i can use
>toneloc effectively, just cause i dont know AS much as you both theres no
>need for you to give me a hard time!!

You dont know what to do when ytou find a carrier - did you read the docs
*at all* or are you just taking the piss?

You download a utility, you dont know how to use it, you dont read the docs,
you dont know what your looking for OR how to exploit what it finds, so you
come into a newsgroup and ask a question that's covered by the FAQ and are
actually *surprised* when you get flamed to timbuctu and back?

Go home and cut your hands off before you type any more drivel you flid.


KP

In article <[email protected]>, KP wrote:
>In article <[email protected]>, 
>FrostbiTe wrote:
>>im not a 'script kiddie', and when i asked that question i meant, what do i
>>do when i find a carrier and to KP's post i did read the docs and i can use
>>toneloc effectively, just cause i dont know AS much as you both theres no
>>need for you to give me a hard time!!
>
>You dont know what to do when ytou find a carrier - did you read the docs
>*at all* or are you just taking the piss?
>
>You download a utility, you dont know how to use it, you dont read the docs,
>you dont know what your looking for OR how to exploit what it finds, so you
>come into a newsgroup and ask a question that's covered by the FAQ and are
>actually *surprised* when you get flamed to timbuctu and back?
>
>Go home and cut your hands off before you type any more drivel you flid.
>
>
>KP
>


And just in response to [email protected] (funny how the posting
neatly co-incided with FrostBite's):

How about -

1) You turn your caps lock off, you look enough of a spastic without it
2) There's no question to answer, and if there was, it'd be unlikely I'd
   answer it out of the goodness of my heart
3) You dont have a fucking *clue* about me, so if you think playground
   insults are going to get my back up, aim higher
4) You get a clue instead of posting from your nice comfy ntlworld account
   and h4ng1ng w1th th3 haxx0rz


It just amazes me how fucking retarded some people can be. IMHO the www
should never have been invented as all it seems to have done is make
online life seem attractive to complete drooling mongs like 99% of the
ntlworld, AOL, blue-yonder and freeserve losers.

I think we should have stronger CMA laws, no free-calls or incentives to get
online, constant surveillance and stronger security schema. At least that
would sort the dross out in the long term and we wouldnt see totally inept
fucking losers like you wandering in and thumping your keyboard from the
comfort of your wheelchair.

BTW, I'm the type of person who has pretty much everything he wants
(apart, obviously, from more k0dez), but if you think you can have
a pop, come ahead. Now, go back to your PC, and get back to downloading
porn and kewl tewlz.

KP


#include <obligatory_sink_to_mong_level_insult.h>

Please tell your mother this won't affect our relationship.

In article <[email protected]>, nvm wrote:
>First time going as well - myself and two or three others will be there that
>I know of.
>
>N.
>
>
>"Jam & Pot Noodle" <[email protected]> wrote in
>message news:[email protected]...
>> This will be my first time and I don't wanna go without knowing anybody.
>> So is anybody gonna go?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>


Good stuff.

I'm the one in the suit taking pictures, I'll have none of this hacking
malarkey on *my* manor.

My city - my k04dz.

KP

KP Caught Out!

"Michael" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> "HITMAN9384" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > cOULD SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME HOW TO TELL EVEN IF SOMEONES PUT 141 BEFORE THERE
> > NUMBER HOW TOO GET THERE NUMBER
> 
> You could try asking them.
> Or you can ask BT or what ever telco you're on to ban calls with no CLID.
> That way, they'd have to enable CLID to make your phone ring, there is no
> other way cause their CLID is discarded at the switch.
> 
> regards
> Michael


<AHEM>

Far be it for me to hose your chips in steaming piss, but I just have
to stamp on this thread before it vomits out of control. 

> other way cause their CLID is discarded at the switch.

Do you have a fucking *clue*? Besides which, to provide CLIP based call
blocking requires ISUP (ISDN to you you *mong*) based call processing
facilities.

Now get back to reading f41th you loser.

Here's a tip - own the loser's switch, and sit on a SLC monitor, or
surf the AMA for the numbers your looking for. Do we have to spoon 
feed you fuckers *forever*???

---

onemancrimewave - party till you puke

(lisp) <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> NoStyle <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> > Do one dickhead 
> > if it wasnt for not knowing where you lived, I'd be around like a shot
> > kicking your fucking teeth in. :) 
> > B
> 
> OoooOh! Isn't he scary!
> 
> Please don't hurt us!
> 
> I would say "that's enough mockery for one day", but the day's only just
> started.


Amen to that weird sexual hybrid thing;

Badstyle, I'd love to take the blade I got for xmas, gouge it into your
occular cavity then brainfuck your vacant cranium until I blurt my muck
out your ear - at least then you could say that someone had knocked some
sense into you (and hey, your protein count would be up drastically).

Don't knock Gus; Gus is old skool; Gus has lots of friends; 
You are an insignificant turd on the arsehair of humanity on the other
hand, and lack the conviction (I'm willing to slab sheets on this) to 
state your case in the flesh you fucking invertebrate dyslexic slack-jawed
mongoloid vapid fuckwit.

Now go back home and fuck your mother harder this time, and be sure to 
get her to say my name when you lick her puckered old sphincter.

Fucking loser kid.

---

onemancrimewave - party til you puke

[email protected] (Kenny Anderson) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Does anyone have a contact e-mail address for the (ex?)UK phreaker
> Violater (formally of the Amiga scene group Apocalypse)? I believe he
> moved to the US, and I'd like to make contact with him again...
> 
> 
> Ken (D, ex-LSD)

Your best bet is to do a deja search for Nomad( in this NG ) , mail
him at the address listed sniffing for details and tell him you know
about the building
he stiffed;
He knew him for some time (indeed, violator proved to be an excellent
getaway
driver), or alternatively search for Eck +grass +DMBBS
+I_grassed_up_maelstrom.

I doubt very much he'd want to be dragged back into any of this shit
at his
age but you never know.

Best of luck in your quest, and if you do find him wish him a big
hello
from the old-skool 94 posse innit.

---

onemancrimewave - party til you puke

"??BaDStylE?? ?" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Why is this not approved for a BT system?
> 
> http://www.spy-store.co.uk/viewitem.asp?idproduct=76
> 
> ··B··

Right, to clear up;

BABT approval or disapproval (G circle / R triangle respectively) means just
that. The British Approvals board for Telecoms have examined the device and
deemed it unfit to function in any capacity under the terms of the
Telecommunications Act (Whatever the current release date may be).

Most common causes are intrusion of privacy, unacceptable voltage
leaks, poor isolations, lack of monitoring tones, lack of grounding,
breaching of break / recall circuitry etc etc etc etc etc  ad nauseum

As far as the call recording issue goes, it's quite simple. Any
telephone call may be recorded as long as at least one party on the conversation is
privy to this fact; so you can record away quite merrily at will at home, but
as soon as you call an ACD (where hundreds of people may be able to drop on
one split or BLV circuit at once) you are reminded, often as result of company
policy rather than legal requirement  that your conversation may be
recorded.(legal in terms of telecoms law - what they do with once it's dumped
to DAT is up to them in the event of bill dispute / etc etc etc etc hence the
warning)

Telecoms legaility is a grey area, and quite why this thread gathered
so much fucking momentum is simply beyond me. If your going to break
the law just do it, dont piss around looking for tips from your
"peers".

Anyway, hope this helps to stop you dribbling in your crotch badstyle,
you fucking scoper.

----

onemancrimewave - party til you puke


PS : ACD - mong term for a "call centre", where you pay idiots to jump
to the tune of a predictive dialer.